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[Miller,Brad]

Thanks to SBrady on this one.   I'm still kicking around the idea of 
 the "real" system -  with a fully programmable setup.  That would fix 
 my delimma - -- of course . . . just dropping in the V6 version into 
 this car would fix my power problems . . .  hmm . . . 

My other question is still sitting in the back of my mind - -  I'm 
 building a 2.5L motor - - but alas - - it doesn't have a turbo or fuel 
 injection . . . . yet . . . but I've seen some systems based upon what 
 I already have (dual Webers).  It'd be a straight forward blow-thru 
 system . . . hmm . . . that might be worth experimenting with . . . 
 I'll have to see how energetic I feel this summer/year.

Catch ya' all later!

Bradley Miller
Xerox Business Services, Kansas City
Midwest Shelby Dodge Automobile Club Inc.
Email: Brad_Miller at so.xerox.com
Alternate: Brad2dbone at aol.com





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<*>From: owner-diy_efi at coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu
<*>To: diy_efi at coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu
<*>Cc: diy_efi at coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu
<*>Subject: Re: <none>
<*>Date: Saturday, December 16, 1995 10:25AM
<*>
<*>Brad,
<*>
<*>You probably won't like what happens to the throttle response when you move
<*>the TBI unit to the end of a longer tuned manifold.  A dyno may or may not
<*>tell you that you're making more torque, but the seat of your pants will
<*>probably be disappointed.  You also may wind up with mixture distribution
<*>problems and horrible emissions because you're using a manifold that was not
<*>designed for wet flow.

---- SNIP ----

<*>
<*>The best advice I can give you though is to sell the car you have 
 and buy the
<*>turbo version.  Why try to make something almost as good as a factory turbo,
<*>when you can focus on improving the turbo version?  In general, turbo cars
<*>come with premium suspensions, brakes, upgraded cooling systems, upgraded
<*>engine components, transmissions etc.  The cost savings of starting with the
<*>cheaper car are an illusion, even if you don't value your time.  I'm 
 not sure
<*>what the emissions laws are in your end of the country, but if they have an
<*>inspection program the modifications you're considering will smoke 
 the resale
<*>value of the car.

Well --  actually this car already has all the upgraded stuff - - - the 
 only thing it's lacking is the V6 motor that it's brothers have.  (The 
 early predecessors had turbo-4's.)  This car has the suspension mods, 
 brakes, and even upgraded electrical system - - just not the other motor.

<*>
<*>If you don't have much money to spend, and want to really fly, buy a
<*>motorcycle.

Got one - -- 1971 Honda  . . . . it's a blast.   Plus - - my other car 
 (besides the daily driver) is the one I like to have fun and fly in . 
 . . just changing carb bought me ~1 second off quarter mile.  Not bad 
 for $450.

<*>
<*>Good Luck, and have fun with it whichever way you go.
<*>
<*>SBrady
<*>

Thanks again!