ecu question

thomas walter x5955 walter at roadster.sps.mot.com
Wed Oct 11 16:55:23 GMT 1995


> From: George Theologitis <georget at athena.compulink.gr>
> 
> My car has a Bosch Motronic ECU  0 261 200 216
> The microprocessor writes on it INTEL 80 (68 pins, one pc board).
> What does this means,  8080 , 8051 ... ???
> 
> Thanks in advance.

I would look at Phillips 80515 type devices, and see if you
happen to notice the pin outs are the same. ;-)  It is not
unusually to see copyright notices for Intel (8031 originator),
Phillips (80515 producer), and Bosch (who supplied the data for
the mask rom) on all the same package.

Cheers,

Tom


P.S. Jim Conforti posted about this earlier:


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Subject: Re: Motronic: Do they use 8048 / 8051
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On Tue, 9 May 1995, Georg Siotis wrote:

> A wrong subject slipped inside. Sorry about that. I 've heard that early 
> Motronics use the 8048 and the later (after 90) use the 8051. It would of 
> course be very nice if someone can confirm this.

  The earliest units used the Cosmac 1802 

  Then came the 8051, 8052, and 80515 ....

  Next, they switched to 16bit uP's with variants of 
  the Intel 80x96

  Usually in combo with an SMD (44pin) 8051 for spark & knock control

  The latest OBD-II compliant M5.2 uses the 87C196KN

  Jim

  PS: You can obtain a shareware package called DIS8051 from many sources
      on the net .... 

  PPS: If anyone has any 80x96 tools to share let me know!




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