(Fwd) Re: cranking ignition (fwd)

[Jim Butler]

	I passed this email, as it appeared on the Beretta list via the DIY_EFI
list, to SuperChips (see below) via personal email and this was their reply.

	I believe that someone on one of the lists later posted a similar
comment, i.e., that it was a different company than what we commonly think of
when we hear "Superchips".

	FWIW.

	I have no interest in this company in any way.

	Jim

--
Jim Butler


--- Forwarded mail from Michael Short <tech at superchips.com>

Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:34:24 -0400
To: butler at comm.mot.com (Jim Butler)
From: Michael Short <tech at superchips.com>
Subject: Re: cranking ignition (fwd)

Hello Jim,
        Yeah, we got hurt on that one. It was done by a company called
ADS in Texas selling a product that they call a "Superchip". It was
not Superchips Inc. If you see any of our advertizements you will
notice a disclaimer at the bottom stating that we do not have anything
to do with ADS and thier "Superchip". Anything that you can do to
help clear up this confusion will be appreciated.

Thanks
Mike S




At 07:14 PM 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>	Guys, I got this on the Beretta list and thought you might have
>something to say about.  I'm certainly interested!
>
>	Thanks,
>
>	Jim
>
>--
>Jim Butler
>
>
>--- Forwarded mail from beretta at GateKey.Com
>
>Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Jody Shapiro <jshapiro at bit-net.com>
>To: beretta at GateKey.Com
>Subject: [BerettaNet] Re: cranking ignition (fwd)
>Reply-To: beretta at GateKey.Com
>
>From: Jody Shapiro <jshapiro at bit-net.com>
>
>Interesting note on SuperChips from the diy_efi list:
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Tue, 26 Aug 97 13:35:00 PDT
>Reply-To: diy_efi at coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu
>Subject: Re: cranking ignition
>
>     <<<
>     Does anyone know how the ignition timing is done on distributorless
>     ignition systems when cranking the engine? How is the ignition timed
>     when
>     the crank is not turning over at constant revs   >>>
>
>     Well on the GN's there is an EST module "bypass" mode for starting;
>     the timing is fixed at some hardwired value until the rpm exceeds 400
>     or so, where the timing duties are then handed over to the ECM. The
>     crank sensor works with a cam position sensor to determine phase.
>     Crank rpm is never totally "constant", nor does it need to be.
>
>     <<<
>          Superchips: I'm worried when they say on their web site, "We can
>     make a chip for any car in a couple of hours."   >>>
>
>     You are right to be wary here; I hear that these fine folks were the
>     proprieters of a real chip "scam" that came to light several years
>     ago; something about selling a power chip for a Nissan turbo that was
>     totally stock with a Stuperchips decal on it. The only power increase
>     came from a cheapo boost bleeder valve sold with it.
>
>
>



---End of forwarded mail from Michael Short <tech at superchips.com>