GM Tranny Bolt Patterns

Steve Ochs Steve_Ochs at compuserve.com
Thu Dec 18 02:07:26 GMT 1997


Message text written by INTERNET:diy_efi at esl.eng.ohio-state.edu
>Anybody know if the 3.8L Buick FWD engine and the 2.8L/3.1L/3.4L Chevy FWD
> share the same bellhousing pattern? I thought so originally until I found
> out that the Quad 4 and the 2.8L are different. So maybe the Buick is
> different too.
><

Boy, gone from the digest for two days and I miss a lot!!!  I wish I could
have gotten into this discussion earlier. 

Here is the scoop:

Rear Wheel Drive -
There are two bolt patterns made, Chevy and BOP (Buick-Olds-Pontiac)
Some transmissions came in both, some in Chevy only.
The 700-R4/4L60/4L60-E came in Chevy ONLY until 1995 when the split case
became avaialble.  All BOP applications used the THM-200-R4, THM-200,
THM-250, or THM-350 until those trannys were discontinued (last was 200-R4
in 1990).  That is why 3800 was not available in Camaro/Firebird until
1995.  In order to be more flexible including outside customers, a 2-piece
case was designed for the 4L60-E.  The transmission housing is the same but
the bellhousing can be replaced with different versions (like a manual
tranny).
All Chevy truck engines mated to the 700-R4/4L60/4L60-E (including 2.8L
V-6, 4.3L V-6, & All V-8s) have the Chevy bolt pattern.  No adapters have
ever been used with the 700-R4 tranny.

Front Wheel Drive -
ALL transverse FWD Automatic trannys have the SAME bolt pattern EXCEPT for
the 4T80-E which is used exclusively on the Northstar V-8s.  There have
only been THREE FWD transverse transmissions made for all applications
other than Northstar

The first was the THM-125 which is now known as the 3T40 (3-speed
auutomatic).  

The second which is basically a beefed up O.D. version of the 3T40 is the
THM-440-T4which has evolved into the 4T60, the 4T60-E, and the 4T65-E.

The third is the newer 4T40-E which is a O.D. 3T40.

All of these models all have the same mounting bolt pattern.  I don't have
my manual near me but unless the engines were made with a different bolt
pattern, the Getrag should have the same pattern.  It is possible the
engines (such as the Quad 4) were made with a dual pattern, but the
Automatic version of the Quad 4 is the same as the V6s.

    The following is a list of GM FWD transmissions
and their applications:

    Model           Years       Current Application
---------------  ------------  ---------------------
THM125-C (3T40)  1979-2002     J (possibly to 2002)
4T40-E           1995-future   J,N,P-90
THM-440T4 (4T60) 1984-1990     None
4T60-E           1988-1999     W,U,H
4T65-E           1997-future   W,U,C,H,G
4T80-E           1992-2002     Northstar

     The following is a list of many of GM trannys over the years and their
torque capacities, etc.

                                |--------Maximum-------|
                                Engine  Gearbox  Gross    Torque     
Overall
     Transmission       Weight  Torque  Torque  Veh. Wt. Conv. Dia.  
Length
        Model           (lbs.)  (lb/ft) (lb/ft)  (lbs)    (inches)   
(inches)
     Rear Wheel Drive:
     TH-180C (3L30)     130/140   258     440     7716   9.6/10.24  
26.29/28.11
     TH-200-4R          157       330     550     6000     11.73     28.26
     TH-400 (3L80)      190       440     885    12000     12.20    
29.30/34.48
     TH-700-R4 (4L60)   167/184   350     650     8600   9.6/11.73  
29.77/30.64
     4L30-E             168/177   258     440     7716   9.6/10.24  
28.54/31.57
     4L60-E             160/176   350     612     8600   9.6/11.73  
29.77/30.64
     4L80-E             260       440     885    15000     12.20    
31.93/33.02

     Front Wheel Drive:
     TH-125C (3T40)     161       200     416     5100     9.64
     TH-440-T4 (4T60)   195       235     369     5181     9.64
     4T60-E             203       280     390     6400     9.64
     4T65-E             214       285     400     6400   9.64/10.16
     4T80-E             295       305     461     6800     10.43

     Here are some common tranmission gear ratios: 

     Transmission
        Model           First   Second   Third   Fourth   Reverse
     Rear Wheel Drive:
     TH-180C (3L30)     2.400   1.479    1.000     ---     2.000
     TH-200-4R          2.741   1.568    1.000    0.674    2.067
     TH-350             2.52    1.52     1.00      ---
     TH-400 (3L80)      2.482   1.482    1.000     ---     2.077
     TH-700-R4 (4L60)   3.059   1.625    1.000    0.696    2.294
     4L30-E             2.400   1.479    1.000    0.723    2.000
     4L30-E Optional    2.860   1.620    1.000    0.723    2.000
     4L60-E             3.059   1.625    1.000    0.696    2.294
     4L80-E             2.482   1.482    1.000    0.750    2.077

     Front Wheel Drive:
     TH-125C (3T40)     2.840   1.600    1.000     ---     2.067
     TH-440-T4 (4T60)   2.921   1.568    1.000    0.705    2.385
     4T60-E             2.921   1.568    1.000    0.705    2.385
     4T65-E             2.921   1.568    1.000    0.705    2.385
     4T80-E             2.960   1.626    1.000    0.681    2.130

Steve Ochs aka N8TYS- Mfg. Engineer - GM Powertrain - Parma Plant
Transmission Division (4T60/65-E) - Steve_Ochs at compuserve.com
The statements and opinions expressed here are NOT an official
statement of General Motors or the GM Powertrain Division

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