Repost - octane booster question - more details
gofast at ix.netcom.com
gofast at ix.netcom.com
Wed Jan 8 14:49:46 GMT 1997
Wow! Thanks for all the responses to my earlier post (which I've included at
the bottom. I think I need to be more descriptive about my car and what I've
checked so far:
The car is a 1977 BMW 530i. The engine was rebuilt by a hi-po mechanic
before I knew anything about cars, and suffered being in storage for many
years after the original car was crashed. I've recently transplanted it into
another 77 body, and am now trying to make it run well. The engine probably
has a total of about 30-40k miles on it.
Going over the invoice for the engine build, I've discovered it has 9.5:1
pistons, and a BMW 733i cam. It was also bored out a little, and ported and
polished. Stock pistons are 8.5:1, I think.
The engine compression is at 150-157 psi, right at the upper limits of
factory settings for a stock engine, in the BMW manual. I have recently
'rebuilt' the intake system and replaced all seals, gaskets and hoses, and
put in new fuel injectors (stock). Also did a valve adjustment. Fuel filter
replaced. WR8DC spark plugs (stock recommedation) at .25 gap. Fuel injection
is early Bosch L-jet, without o2 sensor, knock sensor or computer controlled
electrical advance. Distributor has mechanical advance, points replaced with
Allison XR700 optical trigger. Stock Distb advance is 22 deg BTDC @ 1700
rpm, goes to 32 degress at 3500 rpm (I think). Fuel pressure is 32 psi at
idle, 41 psi without vacuum. Stock is 2.5 psi FPR, 36 psi +- 3 psi, so I'm
only a little short. Plug wires are stock, about 1.5 yrs old. Pulling each
plug does cause a change in running, so all plugs are firing, at least at
idle. All smog devices removed.
Problems at present: With 87 octane, pings under load. With 93 octane, seems
to choke and hesitate under load, at 4-4.5 rpm with stock advance. Will run
upto higher rpm with more advance, but then idle and emmissions are lousy.
What I've done so far: I also have a 76 530i, which runs well, so I've been
moving parts back and forth. There has been no change in performance with
the coil, distb, AFM, or computer from the other car, suggesting those
components are working. Went back to points; no change, so allison is
probably OK. Changed the spark plugs, no change. Replaced all the intake
seals, no change. Tightened AFM spring - lost some power. (Need to reloosen
AFM spring and try that).
Earlier, I thought I might be running out of gas at higher rpms, as
suggested by archives and the Alfa l-jet site (I dont have the address handy
at present to give the appropriate credit), but have not been able to find a
rising rate fuel pressure regulator at an affordable price.
I read in a book put out by the BMW club, in an article by Jim Rowe of
Metric Mechanics (BMW Enthusiasts Handbook?) that 9.0 was max p iston
compression recommended for use with 2002 with pump gas, or 'you'd be
buying gas at the airport'. Which is why I posted the question below, in
case I had an engine that was not meant to be run with pump gas. The folks
on the BMW digest have been very helpful, but they are nowhere near as
technical as this group, and only a handful have any experience with the
older cars.
BTW, can an o2 sensor be used as a sniffer at the tailpipe? Or is the
exhaust too cool by then. What if I use a 3-wire and heat it by connecting
all 3 wires?
Thanks again, for the space, time, and feedback. You've already made a
number of very useful comments, dont know if this info provides any more
insights, but I'll appreciate any further thoughts.
The original post:
Hi guys. I *think* I am running out of octane in my BMW 530i - I have high
compression pistons, and the car is choking at high rpms. Have checked most
of
the obvious things like fuel pressure, filter, etc.
I read here that xylene or Toluene is the way to get more octane. How much
should one add to each tank?
What is the minimum octane I would need with 9.5:1 pistons?
Thanks in advance.
Samir Shah
gofast at ix.netcom.com
Stamford, CT
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