TYPE I / TYPE II DIS C3I MODULE WIRING

TBK terryk at foothill.net
Fri Feb 20 06:44:09 GMT 1998


I believe you. I was just surprised.

TK
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Shotton <stucky at interaccess.com>
To: diy_efi at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu <diy_efi at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: TYPE I / TYPE II DIS C3I MODULE WIRING


>Trust me.  The 3.8 vin 3 has nylon teeth on the cam gear.  Like I said ,
>the replacements are all steel.
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>Scott
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>TBK wrote:
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>> A Buick with Nylon gears? Never seen one.I'll check the manual.
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>> I'm going to take the pack part number down to the dealer and try to
figure
>> which one they put on there. I know there the a compatable Type II, I
just
>> don't know if that is the one on the car.
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>> TK
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Shotton <stucky at interaccess.com>
>> To: diy_efi at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu <diy_efi at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 9:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: TYPE I / TYPE II DIS C3I MODULE WIRING
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>> >The modules are not direct swaps.  With schematics and some minor
>> >harness modifications, you may be able to get them to work.  You might
>> >need to change to a different plug in, they are "keyed" to fit the
>> >appropriate modules.
>> >
>> >I have seen quite a few type I coils fail (hard start cold, about 30 deg
>> >and below).  Insufficinet avaliable voltage.  Another guess as to why GM
>> >changed:  replacing individual coils is cheaper then replacing all
>> >three.
>> >
>> >Off the subject,  GM 3.8 vin 3's have a nylon cam gear.  Around 100,000
>> >miles (especialy in climates that vary in temperature causing the nylon
>> >to expand and contract) they spit the teeth and smash the valves.
>> >Replacement gears are steel.  If you are near the milage and havent donr
>> >the gears and chain, you might want to think about it.  3.8 vin C (3800)
>> >has a steel cam gear factory.
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>> >TBK wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a VIN 3  3.8L Buick V6.
>> >>
>> >> It appears the Type I C3I coil pack (opposite side output) was swapped
>> >> to a Type II (same side output) to correct a miss in the engine..
>> >>
>> >> Can someone confirm, deny, or supply dis-information regarding the
>> >> wiring being different between the two.
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>> >> I suspect the two can not be swapped without changing the sensor, EST,
>> >> bypass, etc wiring.
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>> >> Drawing appear to show them as being different.
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>> >> Are they direct swaps?
>> >>
>> >> True or false.
>> >>
>> >> Terry Kelley
>> >
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