Wouter, I had a good look under the Cielo's bonnet (was home in Durban in May 1997 for a few days) and saw no evidence of EGR. Haven't looked at the the equivalent car in the UK (dang! forget the UK name ... Paul Rodda -------------------------- Opel 2.0 turbo Mini Cooper KAD 16v Mini Cooper Lancia Dedra 2.0 ie Fiat Panda