NOT the World's first BS based fuel additive

[Paul Tholey]

I think this these two are in cahoots!  I mean why beat a dead horse.
Unless there is some real proof on an additive let us keep our favorites to
ourselves.
       To borrow a phrase from Ray, these Pseudoscientific explanations
don't mean a damn.  I would much rather keep our efi systems clean burning
with good fuel, and proper ignition.  That is it!  And what type of EFI has
"doesn't have an IAC, so I have to manually turn down the idle afterwards"?

Paul Tholey


At 08:29 PM 3/25/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I can't shed any light on this product, but I am using a different one
>(won't mention name due to fear of getting BBQed).  Anyway what I have found
>is that a lot of cleaners and additives make it worse.  If you take a small
>sample of your additive and light it, what does the burning flame look like
>? and is it a clean flame (ie.no soot comming of the flame like on a candle)
>and are there any residue left after all is burnt away ?
>
>The stuff I use (only use it because I can get at cost price, otherwise too
>expensive), is used for professional carbon cleaning.  It burns almost
>invisible, but with a slight blue tint around the edge, and if you place a
>bit of glass above the flame it does not go black with carbon deposit.  No
>idea whats in the liquid, but it has a yellowish colour and smells bloody
>aweful.
>
>Anyway this is the only additive I have seen that "VISIBLY" burns completely
>clean (can't comment on what I can't see with my eyes, I'm sure if a gas
>analysis was performed there would be some sort of crap).
>
>Now I only use this every 6 months or so, I disconnect my fuel tank from the
>surge tank and run from the 5 litres in this, mix in 250ml of this cleaner,
>go for 30km drive (or until out of fuel).  During the 30km you can actually
>feel that the car starts to run better and the idle will pick up (my car
>doesn't have an IAC, so I have to manually turn down the idle afterwards).
>
>I haven't had the engine pulled apart so I can't see what it looks like
>inside, but if you shine a torch through the spark plug hole onto the crown
>of the piston, it looks clean (well, there is no sign of carbon deposits, so
>I pressume its clean).
>
>Anyway, enough ramplings.  This is just my experience.
>
>Dan     dzorde at geocities.com
>
>  
>>Hi Paul,
>>
>>Appreciate your comment and this was my attitude to the
>>sea of fuel additive in the market. Basically the fuel
>>additive in the market are cleaners. Cleaners are
>>supposed to aid in the cleaning of carburettors jets
>>or fuel injectors nozzles. Does it work? Well I tried
>>a handful throughout my years of driving and most do
>>not produce any significant improvement. So this is
>>why I am with you in saying that this sounds like an ad.
>>
>
>{Big snip}
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>>I hope someone out there can elaborate more 'coz I sure
>>would like to know more about it..technically that is.
>>Please accept my apologies if I have put this message
>>to sound like an ad. But the best way to authenticate
>>this product is to put it thru a benchmark test. So
>>any takers?
>>
>>Rdgs
>>
>>Ben
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