DIY_EFI Digest V4 #227

[David Rhoads]

Costs, even ballpark, on some packages could be a useful piece of
additional information.  The following message was sent to me offlist;

Subject: tion and Modeling
   Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:45:36 -0400
  From: "Gary Derian" <gderian at oh.verio.com>
     To: <rhoads at adi.com>


There is lots of modeling in industry.  Not too many years ago, it cost
over
$50,000 per seat of 3D CAD for software and hardware.  Now it can be
done
for $8,000.  The new systems run on Windows NT and Intel Pentium II and
Pentium III.  This makes it available to a whole new class of company. 
It
is truly a revolution.  Common low cost software is Solid Edge and Solid
Works.  Pro Engineer has dropped prices and is trying to compete in that
arena.  The really big buck systems, like Catia are useful to large
global
corporations are  still expensive.
Gary Derian <gderian at oh.verio.com>


> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:10:21 -0400
> From: H Villemure <memvive at globetrotter.qc.ca>
> Subject: Re: Simulation/Modeling Tools
> 
> How much $$$?
> Do you own a copy yourself?
> 
> FHPREMACH at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 4/14/99 8:47:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > memvive at globetrotter.qc.ca writes:
> >
> > << David Rhoads wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Help ...
> >  >
> >  > I'm looking for some additional information to wrap up a term paper that
> >  > I'm writing.  What I need is info/comments on various
> >  > modeling/simluation languages/tools
> >
> >  The Pro/Eng (Pro/Engineer) package is indeed the most complete one I
> >  have seen with mechanical, heat transfer and motion simulations.
> >
> >  Hope this helps,
> >  --
> >  Helene V. >>
> >
> > I beg to differ. ProE is a cumbersome package. If you want to use what the
> > big boys use, look to SDRC IDEAS and Fluent Rampant for design and
> > Computational Fluid Dynamics respectively. This is what people like Ford,
> > Ilmor and others of that caliber use. The company (an international
> > aerodynamics research and consulting firm) where I was in charge of design of
> > gaging and database development spent a great deal of time evaluating
> > packages. We talked to a number of companies who had IDEAS and ProE
> > experience and they were fairly unanimous in their recommendation for design
> > and analysis. Fluent is the world leader in CFD for virtually every kind of
> > fluids flow analysis as well as thermal and combustion analysis. IDEAS was
> > recommended by them as a tool for preprocessing the data for their analysis
> > suite.
> > Talk to these people. You will find that they are both companies with strong
> > educational ties.
> > Fred
> 
> - --
> Helene V.
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