Cubic Dollars

[David Sagers]

Expelled, if you are lucky.  

A lady in Colorado was recently prosecuted because she failed to reveal her intentions to judge the law as well as the case.  She made the mistake of discussing this opening in jury deliberations.  Another juror informed the judge, and since the judge was interested in writing a book about the Fully Informed Jury movement, the judge charged her with some sort of misconduct, and I believe she was convicted.


>>> Raymond C Drouillard <cosmic.ray at juno.com> 01/26 10:08 PM >>>
Greg,

That is very interesting.  Where can I get documentation on that fact?  I
am always interested in what the constitution REALLY says, rather than
some of the more <ahem> interesting interpretations that I have seen.

The next time I am called to jury duty, I would like to have in my hands
documentation that I have the right to judge the law as well as the
defendant.  That would keep me from being forced to convict someone of a
crime that shouldn't exist.

Of course, the real effect of such paperwork would probablly be to get me
excused from the jury.  I would need to find a way to keep that from
happening.

Ray Drouillard



On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:39:39 -0700 bearbvd at sni.net (Greg Hermann) writes:
>>Scully agrees with that one Mulder.
>
>Yep--and remember that John Adams (yes, that one) argued that the Bill 
>of
>Rights was unnecessary cuz "NO JURY WOULD EVER CONVICT ANYBODY UNDER 
>AN
>UNREASONABLE, UNJUST LAW, ANYWAY!"  Jury nullification was an accepted 
>part
>of English (and thus American, unless you are from Louisiana) law from 
>when
>the Magna Carta was signed until the Rockefellers, Carnegies, Mellons,
>Morgans, Harrimans, etc. told the gummint that it should henceforth be
>called "JURY LAWLESSNESS!!" The framers considered the jury of peers 
>to be
>the ultimate check and balance in their newly designed system of
>government. Really, the law on this subject has NOT changed, they just 
>try
>to tell us that it has!!! Jurors have the right to judge the law as 
>well as
>the facts in any case before them! Think about it!!
>
>Regards, Greg
>>
>>
>>---Robert Harris <bob at bobthecomputerguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The question of your rights to hack GM or other ECU's vs the
>>Manufacturers
>>> boil down to two words -  Cubic Dollars.   If or when it is
>>perceived by GM et
>>> al to be in GM's interest to end the practice, it will end.   GM 
>has
>>> historically crushed competition without regard to anything other
>>than it was
>>> good for GM.  Count on it.
>>>
>>> Start with sheer absolute weight of lawyers - how many thousand can
>>you afford
>>> to defend with?   Then if you do start to get an edge - how many 
>cubic
>>> lobbyist can you afford?  GM can and has had the law routinely
>>changed to suit
>>> GM.
>>>
>>> When it was in Bill Gates interest to crush OS-2, cheap counterfeit
>>windows
>>> flooded the market.  Now that it is not - the software police are
>>out in force
>>> and MS openly states that it intends to have the 100,000 $
>>prescribed by law
>>> fines levied on individuals to end the practice.  Bill Gates can 
>and
>>is taking
>>> everything including the house of anyone they catch.
>>>
>>> Before you start to whine and snivel about rights - think campaign
>>> contributions.  How many bucks to how many Klintonian officials
>>campaigns can
>>> you fatten vs GM.   Not fair?  - who said GM or life or God was 
>fair?
>>>
>>> And do not forget that the tax paid gnomes and drones of the evil
>>empire
>>> AmeriKa will gladly crush you with the full weight and force of law
>>if it
>>> pleases their masters.   Think not - remember Janet Reno's barbecue
>>where 84
>>> people found out what happens when thief religion was not BATF
>>approved.
>>>
>>> Am I cynical - absolutely.  Do I disapprove - absolutely NOT.   Do
>>it, enjoy
>>> the holiday - but don't be surprised when Cubic Dollars descend to
>>end the
>>> practice.
>>>
>>> 1963 Ford C-600 Prison Bus Conversion "Home"
>>> 1971 Lincoln Continental 460 "Christine"
>>> 1972 "Whale" Mustang awaiting transplant
>>> 1978 Dodge Long Bed Peeek Up "Bundymobile"
>>>
>>> Habaneros - not just for breakfast anymore
>>>
>>
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