attn: help needed

Al Lipper efi at cardozo.org
Tue Mar 7 00:43:00 GMT 2000


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Ali,
    I will offer what help I can.  I believe Franklin Software has a C
cross-compiler for the 8051 (http://www.fsinc.com/) and you may want to look
at http://www.fsinc.com/ and http://www.hitex.com/automation/FAQ/8051/ and
maybe http://www.PhilipsMCU.com/ftp.html.   I hope these will provide useful
8051 unfo.  If you have specific questions on the software, I'll try to
answer them, but I don't have the time to write the pages of documentation
required for ECU6.BAS (though I wish I did :)  As far as testing goes, a
regular test bed should be fine - All you need is an electric fuel pump and
fuel return line.  The rest of the sensors, and of course the throttle-body,
are part of the EFI system.  I don't know what is available there, but you I
have purchased used throttle-body units from junkyards for relatively little
money.  Good luck.


            Al


 -----Original Message-----
From: Ali Hasan [mailto:u961142 at giki.edu.pk]
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 1:02 PM
To: efi at cardozo.org
Subject: attn: help needed


  Dear Mr. Lipper!
  I am a student of electronics and, along with two other people, am
involved in a final year design project just like your ECU6. We have gone
through your files and have found them to be of IMMENSE help in doing our
project. But we need some help and explanations regarding some of the
features of your project.
  First of all when we started the project we had in mind to use C/C++ to
program the microcontroller, unlike you who have used BASIC. The problem is
that as yet we have been unable to find a suitable assembler that would
convert the C code into HEX for the 87C51GB. Please guide us in finding one.
  Secondly we are finding it hard to find a final testing platform for the
device once it would be completely implemented. We have an engine test bed
in one of our labs here, but the machine runs on a conventional carburetor
system. This is the BIGGEST problem that we are facing right now.
  The readme file that you have appended with the ECU6 folder is helpful
enough, but for us who have no teachers here specialized in this kind of
automotive systems, it is rather hard to get the intricacies of the software
files. We've made some good "guesses" on our part, but we want to be sure of
everything. Please send some explanatory material in this regard.
  We know you might be following a busy schedule, but we only have a month
more before our project gets graded. Hence we are in real need for some
timely help.
  We hope that you'll reply and that we could develop some sort of
correspondence in the future as well.
  Thanks in advance!
  Ali Hasan
  GIK Instt.of Engg. and Technology
  Pakistan.

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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and maybe <A=20
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Ali Hasan [mailto:u961142 at giki.edu.pk]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 05, =
2000=20
1:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> efi at cardozo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> attn: help=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Mr. Lipper!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am a student of electronics and, =
along with two=20
  other people, am involved in a final year design project just like =
your ECU6.=20
  We have gone through your files and have found them to be of IMMENSE =
help in=20
  doing our project. But we need some help and explanations regarding =
some of=20
  the features of your project.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First of all when we started the =
project we had=20
  in mind to use C/C++ to program the microcontroller, unlike you who =
have used=20
  BASIC. The problem is that as yet we have been unable to find a =
suitable=20
  assembler that would convert the C code into HEX for the 87C51GB. =
Please guide=20
  us in finding one.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Secondly we are finding it hard to =
find a final=20
  testing platform for the device once it would be completely =
implemented. We=20
  have an engine test bed in one of our labs here, but the machine runs =
on a=20
  conventional carburetor system. This is the BIGGEST problem that we =
are facing=20
  right now. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The readme file that you have =
appended with the=20
  ECU6 folder is helpful enough, but for us who have no teachers here=20
  specialized in this kind of automotive systems, it is rather hard to =
get the=20
  intricacies of the software files. We've made some good "guesses" on =
our part,=20
  but we want to be sure of everything. Please send some explanatory =
material in=20
  this regard.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We know you might be following a busy =
schedule,=20
  but we only have a month more before our project gets graded. Hence we =
are in=20
  real need for some timely help. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We hope that you'll reply and that we =
could=20
  develop some sort of correspondence in the future as =
well.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks in advance!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ali Hasan</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>GIK Instt.of Engg. and =
Technology</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
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