milage indicator

Jeroen Proveniers J.Proveniers at orga.nl
Thu Nov 23 13:16:58 GMT 2000


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Franc Buxton [mailto:fab at dcs.warwick.ac.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 1:36 PM
> To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> Subject: Re: milage indicator
> 
> 
> Jeroen Proveniers wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I want to have a (accurate) milage indicator in my new car 
> (Ford Sierra 2.0i
> > '92). I don't want to use flowmeters (I'd need two, supply 
> and return)
> > because these are quite expensive, and I don't want to cut 
> into fuel lines
> > anyway.
> > So I figured that I could measure the injector pulsewidths. 
> The indicator
> > would need the following parameters of the injectors:
> > -turn on time
> > -flowrate
> > -flowrate versus battery voltage
> > 
> > So the circuit must measure the battery voltage and time 
> the injector
> > pulsewidth.
> > The car is a four cylinder with two banks of two injectors 
> (there is no
> > seperate starting injector). For most accurate metering I 
> would need to
> > measure both banks.
> > 
> > Would this work?
> > 
> 
> 	Hi, Jeroen,
> 
> 	I wonder if you are taking the accuracy a little too 
> far! How accurate

That's why I ask the list -:)

I want to have an accuracy of around 1 decimal, eg. 1 km/14.5 litres. 
I think battery voltage is indeed not so important and will complicate the
circuit, but the turn-on time is. If you neglect this one, an error will
build up in the long run (total used fuel).

JJ

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Franc Buxton [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:fab at dcs.warwick.ac.uk">mailto:fab at dcs.warwick.ac.uk</A>]<=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 1:36 =
PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: milage indicator</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Jeroen Proveniers wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Hello,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; I want to have a (accurate) milage =
indicator in my new car </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (Ford Sierra 2.0i</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; '92). I don't want to use flowmeters (I'd =
need two, supply </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and return)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; because these are quite expensive, and I =
don't want to cut </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; into fuel lines</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; anyway.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; So I figured that I could measure the =
injector pulsewidths. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The indicator</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; would need the following parameters of the =
injectors:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; -turn on time</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; -flowrate</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; -flowrate versus battery voltage</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; So the circuit must measure the battery =
voltage and time </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the injector</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; pulsewidth.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; The car is a four cylinder with two banks =
of two injectors </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (there is no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; seperate starting injector). For most =
accurate metering I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; would need to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; measure both banks.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Would this work?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi, =
Jeroen,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I wonder if you =
are taking the accuracy a little too </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; far! How accurate</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>That's why I ask the list -:)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I want to have an accuracy of around 1 decimal, eg. 1 =
km/14.5 litres. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think battery voltage is indeed not so important =
and will complicate the circuit, but the turn-on time is. If you =
neglect this one, an error will build up in the long run (total used =
fuel).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>JJ</FONT>
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