Ease data logger [was Re: Best Commercial Wide-Band Exhaust Gas Analyzer...???]

Programmer nwester at eidnet.org
Sat Apr 28 00:37:06 GMT 2001


I just ordered mine today. Went for the whole package, less the SPS
reprogramming.
Most of the guys I've talked to are very happy with the EASE scan
tool--speed didn't
seem to be an issue, but it's what you're used to. SnapOn came out with some
new logging
software for their scan tool--it's pretty trick.

Lyndon
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason R. Haines <jhaines at lingenfelter.com>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:50 AM
Subject: Ease data logger [was Re: Best Commercial Wide-Band Exhaust Gas
Analyzer...???]


>
> Yes, we have the OBD II Data Logger. It is nice because we can send it to
a
> customer, let them drive around with it installed (ours is set up to
record
> up to 11 hours) and the don't have to do anything (we set it up to start
> recording on key on). It is also interesting to record track events and
> other high speed events ( we have recorded track events, Silver State
runs,
> ASA cars etc.). The update rate is slow (seems slower than the Tech 2) and
> you can't get all the data parameters that the Tech 2 has. Ease is usually
a
> year or two behind on the vehicle software (and we are normally working on
> brand new vehicles) but for most shops this shouldn't be a real issue. The
> Ease software is also a little slow and bulky on your PC. Despite this,
the
> data logger is a very helpful tool. I have meant to check out the Kent
> Moore/OTC logger but haven't had a chance. I assume it is more like the
Tech
> 2 but I know it won't log nearly as much data.
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> > You're right Jason,
> > I don't think I'd want to trust a $20K engine to a $200 AFR meter.
> > On a side note--Have you looked at EASE's data logger ?
> >
> > Lyndon
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jason R. Haines <jhaines at lingenfelter.com>
> > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: Best Commercial Wide-Band Exhaust Gas Analyzer...???
> >
> >
> > >
> > > When you say wide band exhaust gas analyzer I am assuming you are
> talking
> > > about air fuel ratio analysis and not multi-gas analysis. I am also
> > assuming
> > > you don't want laboratory grade equipment that is very expensive and
> often
> > > can't be mounted in a car. Based on this, from the ones we have tested
> and
> > > used, I like the air fuel ratio analyzers from ECM (Engine Control and
> > > Monitoring). We have several Horiba meters and they work great but I
am
> > > biased against Horiba right now (for product support reasons) and you
> get
> > > more meter for the same price from ECM (the sensors are cheaper too).
> For
> > > most applications, the ECM AFRecorder Model 1200 is probably the best.
> It
> > is
> > > small, has a display, linearized programmable voltage output, an RS232
> > > output and data logging. It can even simulate a switch type O2 sensor
so
> > > that you can plug the wide band sensor into the existing O2 sensor
bung.
> I
> > > think the Model 1200 sells for around $4,500. For a lot less you can
get
> > the
> > > AFM1000 that looks like the NGK blue boxes but has a linearized
voltage
> > > output. The AFM1000 doesn't have a display or offer data logging. I
> think
> > > the AFM1000 costs around $1700. The one we tested that we really liked
> was
> > > the AFRecorder Model 2400 that has all the features of the Model 1200
> plus
> > > is records RPM, manifold pressure and spark timing. It is a lot larger
> > than
> > > the other two models so it isn't as easy to mount in the car. The
model
> > 2400
> > > costs $8000. All three models offer "free air" calibration of the
> sensors.
> > I
> > > think they charge around $400 for the sensors. The ECM web site is
> > > http://www.ecmco.com . Other companies to look at include ETAS (Bosch
> > > emissions/calibration equipment) and Horiba.
> > >
> > > Several cheaper models exist from other companies that use the Bosch 4
> > wire
> > > wide band sensors (I think it is Bosch part number 0 258 104 002).
They
> > are
> > > usually in the $800 to $1300 range. I think ETAS,  Motec, CDS
> (Competition
> > > Data Systems), Autronic (sp?) and many others offer these systems.
> > >
> > > And obviously don't waste your money on any of the products that call
> > > themselves air fuel ratio meters that use the 1 to 3 wire heated
switch
> > type
> > > O2 sensors - they should be called rich/lean indicators and nothing
> else.
> > > 8-)
> > >
> > > Hope the helps,
> > >
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > A friend is building a vintage racer (SB Chevy) and is interested in
> the
> > > best
> > > > commercial Wide Band Exhaust Gas Analyzer.
> > > >
> > > > He hasn't the time to build and debug/calibrate the DIY_EFI version
at
> > > this
> > > > time so hence this request for recommendations.
> > > >
> > > > Of note, he'll likely be running leaded race gas so if possible an
> > > analyzer
> > > > that he could calibrate and replace the wide band lambda sensor
> > (hopefully
> > > > without sending it back to the manufacturer etc) would be best.
> > > >
> > > > TIA for all your help!
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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