Wiggle Room

[Brian L Massey]

On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 21:52:37 -0500 steve ravet <sravet at arm.com> writes:
> But all those EEC list guys are disinterested.  So is everyone else 
> out
> on the internet who stumbles across our home page, and believe me as 
> the
> maintainer a lot of non-subscribers find our page from various 
> search
> engines.  I don't think it's in the spirit of the thing for them to
> profit and members not to.  Peter is correct that it's a fine line 
> with
> plenty of wiggle room.

I think this is confusion. I certainly didn't mean to suggest "all those
EEC list guys are *disinterested*". I don't think you understood what I
wrote. They most certainly are interested parties subject to the usage
agreement; their interest is in building a diy-wb of their own. Are you
suggesting that the usage agreement isn't on the homepage? I wasn't for a
moment suggesting that non-subscribers are *disinterested*, either.
Referring to Peter as a list member with personal interest in the diy-wb,
I wasn't suggesting that only list members are therefore "interested
parties". I thought I made that clear from describing anyone who wants to
build a diy-wb or getting involved even further, as all interested
parties, subject to the usage agreement. How in the world you read me to
the contrary is beyond me. The usage agreement is part of the zip file as
well.

> And no more discussion.  
> There's nothing new left to add.
> 
> --->  I really hope the discussion ends here.  <---

Why is it people say things like this? Peter the General essentially
wrote me the same thing privately, trying to shut me up. You make some
confused remarks and then essentially say, "no more discussion"? Do you
really hope to edict the last word like that? Read more carefully what is
said, and avoid posting confused conclusions, and you won't have to read
any more responses like this one. I promise. Not a good way to try to end
a discussion, by edicting the last word. (I don't see how maintaining the
DIY homepages gives you that prerogative or authority, Steve).

> One more thing:  A lot of people have chosen to speak for the list
> recently, regarding what's allowed and what isn't.

Let's be clear, just in case you had me included in that "a lot of
people"; I never once spoke about what the "list" allows for, only
commented on what the usage agreement and intent of the project team
seemed to clearly say, from their own postings.

Right about now I'm beginning to feel *really* sorry for those guys that
made this project happen. Very sad so many are looking for "wiggle room",
as you call it Steve. I'm especially disappointed someone so close to the
list feels that way.

Brian -fairly new to the list, but old to the planet, too old maybe-
Massey
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