[Diy_efi] Override/Passthrough EFI system?

Xudong Yan xyan at netbrowser.com
Thu Jul 25 17:40:57 GMT 2002


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Hi folks,

Has anyone thought off, has interest in, or has done something along the =
following lines:

Let's say I want to build a "piggyback" EMS, on a car that already has a =
working EMS system.

The piggyback system will have inputs:
    all inputs of original EMS
    all outputs of original EMS
   =20
The piggyback will also has same set of outputs as the original EMS, =
plus some additional ones (say water injection)

Let's say most of the time the piggyback system simply do passthrough - =
no computation, just send the output of the original
EMS out.

But under some circumstances piggyback will "modify" the output of the =
original EMS and then send it out. Say for an water
injection system I will initially only want to control the water, plus =
maybe reducing the fuel a bit or some such.

Whould this be an easier way to develop mods, rather than hacking the =
insides of the original EMS?

Please post your comments. I am a software person so I know at the =
software level this could work. But don't know the
complexity / difficulty of setting up a hardware to "intercept" the =
original EMS input / outputs.

The two "candidate cars" I have: 91 Dodge Spirit, 95 Audi A6. I have no =
idea the ECU details on either car.

Thanks

Xudong




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi folks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone thought off, has interest =
in, or has=20
done something along the following lines:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let's say I want to build a "piggyback" =
EMS, on a=20
car that already has a working EMS system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The piggyback system&nbsp;will have=20
inputs:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; all inputs of =
original=20
EMS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; all outputs of =
original=20
EMS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The piggyback will also has same set of =
outputs as=20
the original EMS, plus some additional ones (say water =
injection)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let's say most of the time the =
piggyback system=20
simply do passthrough - no computation, just send the output of the=20
original</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EMS out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But under some circumstances piggyback =
will=20
"modify" the output of the original EMS and then send it out. Say for an =

water</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>injection system I will initially only =
want to=20
control the water, plus maybe reducing the fuel a bit or some =
such.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whould this be an easier way to develop =
mods,=20
rather than hacking the insides of the original EMS?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please post your comments. I am a =
software person=20
so I know at the software level this could work. But don't know =
the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>complexity / difficulty of setting up a =
hardware to=20
"intercept" the original EMS input / outputs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The two "candidate cars" I have: 91 =
Dodge Spirit,=20
95 Audi A6. I have no idea the ECU details on either car.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Xudong</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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