Wideband for sale..??

[Kris Weldy]

Very nice!Very good points -all of them -im convinced-gonna have to wing it
and try it on my own.So who do i check with for the starter kits and what
not-had to get my soldering iron out of the closet.I will be asking some
redundant questions here and down the line-but all i ask for is patience
from you guys,thanks for all the info.---Your friend,
Kris Weldy
Arlington Texas
88supra turbo auto 9.1 1/8th
aim :volvofam3     --
yahoo:supratheonlywaytofly
BadBoys Performance 817 437 6511
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shannen Durphey" <shannen at grolen.com>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Wideband for sale..??


> Is that "sour grapes", Mr. Theurer?
>
> Since the DIY-WB guys are not making a profit of the boards, there's no
reason
> not to suggest that Kris find a commercial unit if he's mainly interested
in
> tuning.
>
> I've found in the past that knowing what's involved in assembling and
testing an
> important tool can be absolutely invaluable if, say, your wb
sensor/box/display
> starts acting up on a Wednesday night at the track.  Sure the commercial
guys
> will talk to you the next morning, after you needed someone there to help.
And
> after you go through the usual "Well that's the first time we've ever
heard of
> _that_ problem" disclaimers you can sometimes get them to offer to look at
it
> for a fee (nothing ever breaks under warranty!) And then if you're not
unlucky
> you'll get the unit there without damage, and they'll look at it and find
a
> problem to fix (nothing ever acts up with the technician around!)  And
you'll
> probably get the unit back in 2 to 3 weeks time.
>
> And if you really rely on this tool and you've had any experience with the
> scenario above, you'll end up investing in 2 of them because redundancy is
> really key to preventing downtime due to failures involving
non-maintainable
> tools.  So, now, in addition to having bought the expense of paying for
any
> repairs needed on one unit, you'll have invested in another just to
prevent a
> "double loss" of time when the thing breaks down...
>
> And you might find like so many owners of commercial WB displays have in
the
> past that you're tied to using a sensor from the vendor due to some type
of
> proprietary calibration scheme, which means that you need to be very
careful not
> to make any mistakes and damage the $120 sensor (which you will now need
to pay
> $400 for due to that same proprietary calibration scheme).
>
> I'm not suggesting that any one brand of commercial WB sensor will bring
with it
> all these problems, nor that FJO's sensor is any worse than anyone else's.
The
> repair/warranty issue is something to consider especially if you live in a
> different country then the originator of the product.  Availability and
> compatibility of replacement parts should also be weighed in.  And so
should
> availability of general info on the product as well as people with
experience
> using it.  At least that's what I've found.
>
> And look, I conveyed my message without doing anything to provoke a fight.
: )
>
> Shannen
>
>
> Andrew Theurer wrote:
> >
> > Kris, get the FJO.  It has the added benefit of no bickering....
> > That alone is worth the price difference.
> >
> > -Andrew
> >
> > On Friday 08 March 1996 06:58 am, you wrote:
> > > In all honesty, that's violating the user's agreement.
> > > It's meant to be educational, in some form or another.  If you're
going to
> > > be working on EFI'd cars, then at some point you'll need to how to
solder.
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Kris Weldy" <volvo4life at attbi.com>
> > > Subject: Wideband for sale..??
> > >
> > > > Looking at getting a wideband setup for my supra-everything i need
to get
> > > > appropiate feedback on airfuel ratios so i can more accurately tune
the
> > > > haltech on it.Any prices,info-help would be appreciated.I know they
can
> > > > be made but honestly i would rather purchase a kit already made-or
pay
> > >
> > > someone
> > >
> > > > to make the kit for me.Thanks in advance.---Your friend,
> > > > Kris Weldy
>
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