[Diy_efi] schematic critique

Mike erazmus at iinet.net.au
Fri Feb 21 12:19:08 GMT 2003 

At 02:13 AM 20/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>there currently is no fittings on the bottom of the tank, only straps that 
>hold it in place

mmmmm ? so what is used to supply fuel in the first place from the
main tank ?

Is there an in-tank fuel pump and the feed out from this is somewhat
higher than the bottom of the tank ?

>i do have a digi cam, when i put the trans back in her, i will try and snap 
>some pics for you

Yeah great, sounds like a curious setup...~`:o <shrug>

rgds

mike



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>>From: Mike <erazmus at iinet.net.au>
>>Reply-To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>>To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] schematic critique
>>Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:52:33
>>
>>At 06:08 PM 19/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>> >if i am understanding you correctly, you are mentioning to run it around 
>>the
>> >back of diff, from one side to the other, to basically keep the same 
>>height
>> >as going through the driveshaft, but going around the back of the diff
>> >instead?
>>
>>Well close enough, line can easily be protected and enough loop to
>>handle suspension travel, sure.
>>
>> >the problem with the orange line is described in the diagram, but that
>> >positions both the aluminum thread to barb fittings and the line under 
>>the
>> >driveshaft, and lower than the frame rails of the car, which would make 
>>it
>> >extremely susceptible to being ripped off by speed bumps and road debris.
>>
>>But you already have some fitting on one tank, presumably low down,
>>to get the fuel out - why not put a 'T' piece on that. On the other
>>side there is no need to have a fitting going straight down, it
>>can easily be put around the other side and be a 90deg fitting so
>>it doesnt face down etc...
>>
>>Got a digital camera ?
>>
>>rgds
>>
>>mike
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>> >-j
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>> >>From: Mike <erazmus at iinet.net.au>
>> >>Reply-To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>> >>To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>> >>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] schematic critique
>> >>Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:15:35
>> >>
>> >>Sorry, I meant to say 'back' of the diff with respect to direction
>> >>of travel. That way its very unlikely anything could ever hit it
>> >>unless you were to reverse hard over low bushes with really hard
>> >>stumps. In any case you'd use braided 1/2" hose with lots of
>> >>steel cable ties to keep it in place, length is not an issue
>> >>so if a foot or two were used up getting from tank to axle
>> >>with loop to take up suspension travel then its not a problem.
>> >>
>> >>rgds
>> >>
>> >>mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>At 11:01 PM 19/2/2003, you wrote:
>> >> >OK, mmmm,
>> >> >
>> >> >Whats wrong with running the orange line along the front of the
>> >> >diff so it can't get 'torn' as suggested ?
>> >> >
>> >> >rdgs
>> >> >
>> >> >mike
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >At 02:04 AM 19/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>hey mike,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>it is hard to picture, i drew a crappy rough sketch to try and make 
>>it
>> >> >>easier to visualize
>> >> >>
>> >> >>here is the picture
>> >> >>
>> >> >>http://68.7.7.84:8080/schematics/gastank1.jpg
>> >> >>
>> >> >>let me know if there is any more confusion, just to add, its all 
>>factory
>> >>in
>> >> >>placement and design, the only difference is that the factory fuel 
>>pump
>> >> >>housing with venturi valve, had to be scrapped in favor of twin pumps
>> >> >>
>> >> >>thanks for the interest!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>-j
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>From: Mike <erazmus at iinet.net.au>
>> >> >>>Reply-To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk
>> >><diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>> >> >>>To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>> >> >>>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] schematic critique
>> >> >>>Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:25:11
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>mmmm, This is interesting, (for me) something doesnt sound
>> >> >>>right or I am way off in my understanding of what I speculate
>> >> >>>is an existing (factory) fuel tank configuration or is an
>> >> >>>afftermarket fuel tank.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Is the lowest point of both fuel tanks lower than the driveshaft ?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Are they original factory tanks in original location ?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Do you have a pic/sketch of the setup ?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Having said that I recall a setup some years ago where a chap
>> >> >>>added an extra tank, the lowest part was just below the middle
>> >> >>>of his diff, he moved the existing low pressure in tank pump
>> >> >>>from the old tank to the new and left the outside tank high
>> >> >>>pressure pump in its old location.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>rgds
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>mike
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>At 12:01 AM 19/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>> >it would be taken out by the driveshaft, and if i put it below the
>> >> >>> >driveshaft, it would be taken out by speed bumps and road debris
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >otherwise, i would have LOVED such a simple option
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >-j
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>From: Mike <erazmus at iinet.net.au>
>> >> >>> >>Reply-To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk
>> >><diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>> >> >>> >>To: List for general do-it-yourself EFI talk 
>><diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
>> >> >>> >>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] schematic critique
>> >> >>> >>Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:40:25
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>What the heck is wrong with just a pipe and a takeoff at the
>> >> >>> >>lowest point ?
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>rgds
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>mike
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>At 11:36 PM 18/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >if it works :)
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >(you have a good memory mike!)
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>> >> >>> >> >>From: Michael Beebe <beebe_mike at comcast.net>
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>> >> >>> >> >>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] schematic critique
>> >> >>> >> >>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:30:28 -0500
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>Is this circuit for your fuel tank transfer pump? Just 
>>curious.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>Mike
>> >> >>> >> >>
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