[Diy_efi] Venturi effect crankcase breather

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Thu Jul 10 07:38:12 GMT 2003


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No, it dramatically increases the blowby and can actually cause seal
failures on some engines when the crankcase pressure goes positive.
 
Lance
 
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From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] On
Behalf Of Zenon Two
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] Venturi effect crankcase breather



does increasing manifold pressure (via forced induction) have the same
effects as decreasing crankcase pressure?



From: Adam Wade 
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>Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] Venturi effect crankcase breather 
>Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:44:04 -0700 (PDT) 
> 
>--- Jack Vines wrote: 
> 
> > Can you help me better understand what specific 
> > factors involved in pulling a vacuum in the 
> > crankcase cause the dramatic drop in engine life 
> > and which parts wear faster and why? Are we talking 
> > ring wear, bearing wear, piston skirt wear? 
> 
>As I was led to understand by the Harley engineer (who 
>is also a race engineer for several AMA Formula Xtreme 
>teams, I should also add), there was significant 
>additional ring wear once you got past a certain level 
>of depression in the crankcase. He didn't go into too 
>many details, but I suspect there may be bending of 
>the ring with fairly low pressures that cause the wear 
>to be concentrated on the upper edge of the ring face 
>(although this is merely supposition on my part). 
> 
>===== 
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>| They were all given the same miracle drug, which was coffee. | 
>| The catastrophe in this case, of course, was that the sun | 
>| had come up again." -Kurt Vonnegut | 
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D939372507-10072003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No, it =
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<P>does increasing manifold pressure (via forced induction) have the =
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effects as decreasing crankcase pressure?<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:44:04 -0700 (PDT)=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;--- Jack Vines <JACKV at AMBASSADORPROGRAMS.ORG>wrote:=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Can you help me better understand what specific=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; factors involved in pulling a vacuum in the=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; crankcase cause the dramatic drop in engine life=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; and which parts wear faster and why? Are we talking =

<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ring wear, bearing wear, piston skirt wear?=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;As I was led to understand by the Harley engineer (who=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;is also a race engineer for several AMA Formula Xtreme=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;teams, I should also add), there was significant=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;additional ring wear once you got past a certain level=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;of depression in the crankcase. He didn't go into too=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;many details, but I suspect there may be bending of=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the ring with fairly low pressures that cause the wear=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to be concentrated on the upper edge of the ring face=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;(although this is merely supposition on my part).=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;| Adam Wade 1990 Kwak Zephyr 550 (Daphne) |=20
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to. |=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;| They were all given the same miracle drug, which was =
coffee. |=20
<DIV></DIV>&gt;| The catastrophe in this case, of course, was that the =
sun |=20
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