[Diy_efi] Injector angle

GSMFN Allmaras dallmaras at ford.navy.mil
Tue Aug 17 05:35:54 GMT 2004


I like the looks of MSD's 304ss injector caps that TIG weld onto 1/2" ss
tubing. If I angled the injectors slightly forward or aft to compensate for
the turn in the port I could use the MSD pieces and bend the tubing to
match. That might look pretty class without resorting to flex line. I will
angle the injectors as much to the side as practical as well. Thanks to all
that responded.

Dustin

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Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Injector angle


At 10:44 PM 8/16/04, Andrew J. Hopton wrote:
>You want to squirt the fuel right in to the back of the valve, if you can.
>However, this is probably impossible for your setup - in which case you
>want to squirt the fuel as far as possible, towards the valve.  It is
>probably also a good idea to get as much angle (away from straight up &
>down) as you can, to keep the bulk of the spray pattern in the centre of
>the port cross-section (where the fastest/greatest airflow will be) to aid
>atomisation.  If none of this can be satisfactorily achieved, try
>determining where the hottest spot is that you CAN hit, as heat will help
>vaporise the fuel, airflow will do the rest...

The FE has fairly tall portsand they are short (at least in the head).
But--they do have a rather pronounced turn, and you can't really mount the
injectors right next to the manifold/head joint--as this would put them
under the valve covers ! I am thinking that a little bit of angle to one
side (as well as off of vertical) would help a bunch, but this would force
you into connecting the injectors with flex line rather than more
conventional straight fuel rails---

Greg

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>  From: GSMFN Allmaras
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>  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:41 PM
>  Subject: [Diy_efi] Injector angle
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>  Can anybody tell me how to know the correct angle to put fuel injectors?
>I'm converting a ford 427 to port injection by modifying a carb intake.
>There are a few companies around that will convert intakes, but the ones
>I've seen  have the injectors straight up and down. This doesn't seam
>optimal to me as I don't ever recall seeing any OE port injection setup
>with the injectors straight like this. I have all the tools and time to do
>this the right way, I'm just not sure how to go about it. I can post more
>information on the engine if needed. Any tips or thoughts on this type of
>conversion would be greatly appreciated as well.  Thanks.
>
>  Dustin
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><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You want to squirt the fuel right&nbsp;in to
the
>back of the valve, if you can.&nbsp; However, this is probably impossible
for
>your setup - in which case you want to squirt the fuel as far as possible,
>towards the valve.&nbsp; It is probably also a good idea to get as much
angle
>(away from straight up &amp; down)&nbsp;as you can, to keep the bulk of the
>spray pattern in the centre of the port cross-section (where the
>fastest/greatest airflow will be) to aid atomisation.&nbsp; If none of
>this can
>be satisfactorily achieved, try determining where the hottest spot is that
>you&nbsp;CAN hit, as heat will help vaporise the fuel, airflow will do the
>rest...</FONT></DIV>
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>  <A title=dallmaras at ford.navy.mil
href="mailto:dallmaras at ford.navy.mil">GSMFN
>  Allmaras</A> </DIV>
>  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=diy_efi at diy-efi.org
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>  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 16, 2004 6:41
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>  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Diy_efi] Injector
angle</DIV>
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>  <DIV><SPAN class=533415208-16082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2>Can
>  anybody tell me how to know the correct angle to put fuel injectors? I'm
>  converting a ford 427&nbsp;to port injection by modifying a carb intake.
>There
>  are a few companies around that will&nbsp;convert intakes, but the ones
I've
>  seen &nbsp;have the injectors straight up and down. This doesn't seam
>optimal
>  to me as I don't ever recall seeing any OE port injection setup with the
>  injectors straight like this. I have all the tools and time to do this
the
>  right way, I'm just not sure how to go about it. I can post more
information
>  on the engine if needed. Any tips or thoughts&nbsp;on this type of
>conversion
>  would be greatly appreciated as
well.&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
>  <DIV><SPAN class=533415208-16082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
>  <DIV><SPAN class=533415208-16082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>  size=2>Dustin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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