[Diy_efi] Mopar PCM

David Cooley n5xmt at bellsouth.net
Thu Oct 28 01:25:45 GMT 2004


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Interactive Disassembler Pro =0D
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Date: 10/27/04 20:49:14=0D
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Subject: Re: Re: [Diy_efi] Mopar PCM=0D
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What program is this you are looking at disassembling, that j(some number=
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program from daimler chrysler?=0D
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>From: "David Cooley" <n5xmt at bellsouth.net>=0D
>Reply-To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>=0D
>To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>=0D
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>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:10:55 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)=0D
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>Hmm... I do have a disassembler for windows programs!=0D
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>Subject: Re: Re: [Diy_efi] Mopar PCM=0D
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>Anyway to reverse engineer the application I sent you to see how Chrysle=
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>accesses the flash via SCI? Data logger maybe?=0D
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> > From: "David Cooley" <n5xmt at bellsouth.net>=0D
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> > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>=0D
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> >  As I said, even the factory flash file looks identical to what is in=
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> > flash proms... it is both flash concatenated into a single file with =
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> > checksum so the DRB can check for file corruption before it applies t=
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> > flash.  The flash appears to be strictly data, and no code at all.  I=
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>ihave=0D
> > to set up SCI direct to the CPU's to see if I can dump the ROM.  Once=
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>do=0D
> > that I will have a better idea what is going on...  and the info I ha=
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> > not speculation...  I have received it from a person that works for a=
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> > company that assembles, programs, reworks and tests the PCM's for=0D
>Chrysler=0D
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> > 96 and newer Chrysler PCM's are a totally different animal than the 9=
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> > earlier units.=0D
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> > Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Mopar PCM=0D
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> > again a dump wont do you any good. every piece of chyrsler code ive e=
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> > seen has a copyright in asccii test at the bottom of the rom. these d=
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>not=0D
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> > the only clear reasoning is that the adress line are muxed or somethi=
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> > during programming. this is not even remotely beyond the capability o=
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<DIV>What program is this you are looking at disassembling, that j(some n=
umber)</DIV>
<DIV>program from daimler chrysler?</DIV>
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<DIV>&gt;From: "David Cooley" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:n5xmt at bellsouth.net">=
n5xmt at bellsouth.net</A>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;Reply-To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:di=
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<DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Re: [Diy_efi] Mopar PCM</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:10:55 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)</D=
IV>
<DIV>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;Hmm... I do have a disassembler for windows programs!</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;-------Original Message-------</DIV>
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<DIV>&gt;From: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;Date: 10/27/04 16:02:24</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;To: A list for Do-It-Yourself EFI</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Re: [Diy_efi] Mopar PCM</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;Anyway to reverse engineer the application I sent you to see how=
 Chrysler</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;accesses the flash via SCI? Data logger maybe?</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; From: "David Cooley" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:n5xmt at bellsouth=
=2Enet">n5xmt at bellsouth.net</A>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; Date: 2004/10/27 Wed PM 12:52:31 GMT</DIV>
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<DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Mopar PCM</DIV>
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<DIV>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;As I said, even the factory flash file looks id=
entical to what is in</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;the</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; flash proms... it is both flash concatenated into a single=
 file with a</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; checksum so the DRB can check for file corruption before i=
t applies the</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; flash.&nbsp;&nbsp;The flash appears to be strictly data, a=
nd no code at all.&nbsp;&nbsp;I</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;ihave</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; to set up SCI direct to the CPU's to see if I can dump the=
 ROM.&nbsp;&nbsp;Once I</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;do</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; that I will have a better idea what is going on...&nbsp;&n=
bsp;and the info I have</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;is</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; not speculation...&nbsp;&nbsp;I have received it from a pe=
rson that works for a</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; company that assembles, programs, reworks and tests the PC=
M's for</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;Chrysler</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; 96 and newer Chrysler PCM's are a totally different animal=
 than the 95</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;and</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; earlier units.</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt;</DIV>
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<DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Mopar PCM</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt;</DIV>
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<DIV>&gt; &gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; again a dump wont do you any good. every piece of chyrsler=
 code ive ever</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; seen has a copyright in asccii test at the bottom of the r=
om. these do</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;not</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; the only clear reasoning is that the adress line are muxed=
 or something</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; during programming. this is not even remotely beyond the c=
apability of</DIV>
<DIV>&gt;the</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; &gt; 68hc vriants running in these ecms.</DIV>
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