[Diy_efi] Link for greenfire spark plugs...

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Mike, I had always believed that in hydraulics the pressure was equal in all
areas so how could there be flow?

The only place I can see flow occuring is near the valves where the mixture
enters and exits.

Vic
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike" <niche at iinet.net.au>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Link for greenfire spark plugs...


> At 05:46 PM 22/06/05, you wrote:
> >Round and round in circles, changing statements at
> >every turn, and refusing to provide any evidence
> >whatsoever.
>
> Adam,
>
> What particular statement have I changed 'at every turn',
> please paste the most glaring and obvious example so
> its crystal where you think my position has changed  ?
>
> And, do you think I really need to provide evidence there
> are pressure changes and this cant be appreciated by inspection ?
>
>
> Since you ask me for evidence, can you provide evidence the
> mechanism for flow is only diffusion  (rhetorical question ;)  ?
>
>
> >A waste of my (and everyone else's) time.
>
> Not at all, I'm discovering what appears to be some sort
> of mental block you have regarding pressure causing flow...
>
> I had this sort of thing arise a couple of times during my
> teaching career from 79 to 82 and it impressed on me the
> huge difference there is in static vs dynamic abstractions
> people entertain when learning something new. So it would
> be helpful for me to add to my understanding why you hold
> your position so tenaciously ;-)
>
>
> >When you're ready to come up with evidence that
> >supports your theory, which you claim is so basic
> >everyone knows it (and which you should be able to
> >show myriad examples of in mere seconds online), I'll
> >give it a whirl.  Until then, good night.  :)
>
> Are you saying no one will accept pressure gives rise
> to flow ?
>
> It must be obvious to everyone that neither you or I are
> (right now) unlikely in a position to make laboratory measurements.
>
> The rationale and dialectic process that might converge to
> something useful raises these questions:-
>
> a.      Do you believe there is pressure change across
>         the input of the plug ?
>
>         simple yes or no will suffice here.
>
>
> b.      If you believe there is no pressure change across the
>         plug can you articulate why you believe this ?
>
>
>
> c.      If however, you believe there is a pressure change
>         then can you articulate why this would not result in flow ?
>
> .
>
> Bill Washington did an admirable job of an even handed attempt
> to illustrate the issue of pressure for you, yet your response isnt
> helpful, not logical and a bit of slap in his face, I really suggest
> you have another look at his post. In the meantime I'll construct
> a thought experiment, good exercise, I guess as I havent done
> this for 20 years since I last had students at uni ~`:o)
>
> Dont hold your breath though, I'm on 9 other tech groups and
> emails come in thick and fast...
>
>
> Regards from
>
>
> Mike Massen
> Perth, Western Australia
> VL Commodore Fuse Rail that wont warp or melt !
> http://niche.iinet.net.au
>
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