[Diy_efi] Reality check - no efi content - long winded

Garrett P. Beauregard gpbeau
Wed Aug 30 04:26:38 UTC 2006


>From my '98 Olds Intrigue service manual for the 3.8:

1. torque to yield--use new bolts

2. tighten to 50 N-m (37 lb-ft) on first pass then tighten an additional 120
degrees. Last, tighten center four bolts an additional 30 degrees

Hope this helps. Reply offline if you would like a fax of the instructions
with the proper sequence.


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Behalf Of Bill - Comcast
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Reality check - no efi content - long winded

6 new exhaust valves later the heads are ready to put back on.  Anyone
know if the head bolts are reusable or torque-to-yield?  Also,  anyone
know the torque specs for the head bolts, rockers & intake?



Bill - Comcast wrote:
> Hi Leo,
> L&A in Glenville, NY did the work.  They're just north of Schenectady.
> Air in the spark plug hole showed bad exhaust valve,  air leaking out
> the tail pipe.  "L" of L&A fame says it's a chunk of carbon holding
> the valve open,  swears the valves are OK because they did a
> compression test.
> Bill
> Leo Schneggenburger wrote:
>> Hi Bill,
>> I am not sure but I think this is an interference engine. It sure
>> sounds like a bad valve at the least. Head gaskets are also a common
>> issue on these engines and the fact that you are low on the adjacent
>> cylinder makes me wonder about that too. Can you put air into the
>> cylinder as a test? It should of course seal which it won't. Then see
>> if air is coming out the intake manifold or the exhaust or look for
>> bubbles in the radiator. You will know what to do after that. BTW, I
>> am in "Upstate, NY" but I know that in NYC, /*anything */above the
>> city is considered upstate and since you are from the tri-state area
>> you probably think the same way, so where and who worked on your car
>> if you don't mind answering? Privately if you wish.
>> Leo
>> Bill - Comcast wrote:
>>> Sorry for the off topic post but I know there's a lot of mechanical
>>> knowledge here and thought I'd solicit some opinions on this situation.
>>> We just returned from the vacation-from-hell.  Amy's wagon ate the
>>> timing chain in upstate NY.  We got towed into a garage where they
>>> quoted 4-5 hours labor,  $450 to $500 to fix it.  They stumbled and
>>> bumbled around with it for 3 days (each time I asked they were
>>> almost done,  only a couple more hours) while we waited and finally
>>> at about 5:30 on the third day they started it,  but it ran like
>>> garbage and was leaking antifreeze from around the water pump and
>>> had a major oil leak from the valve cover.  They fiddled with the
>>> plug wires for 2 more hours before they finally gave up and pushed
>>> it out of the bay and into the yard.  They went home to supper and
>>> left me, Amy,  and the 2 kids (7 & 4) sitting in the car for 5 hours
>>> waiting for my car hauler to be brought up from CT.
>>> Oh yes,  before they went home they handed me a bill for $1050.

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