[Diy_efi] 16191947 ECM

don.broadus at exeloncorp.com don.broadus
Tue Mar 21 17:52:38 UTC 2006


Thanks for the info. Term D6 (Pin B ALDL) not populated had me wondering if it was OBII since you could not check codes with out a scan tool. Thanks for the help.  








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Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] 16191947 ECM


ODB died in November of 2004.  He was 35.  As far as we know, there was 
no ODB 2, or ODB Jr.

OBD - II was federally mandated for the 1996 model year.  GM made some 
vehicles in 95 with an OBD-II style connector but with OBD-I 
diagnostics, and some with limited-compliance OBD-II diagnostics.  I've 
run into that last kind (OBD 1.5?) in 4.3 VIN W (Vortec) S-10s a couple 
of times.  Before I got the update for my scanner, back in the day, we 
had to send them to the dealer for computer problems.

According to my Mitchell On-Demand, the 94 GA 2.3 had a regular 12-pin 
ALDL and OBD-I.  ECM pin D12 (ORG/BLK) should go to pin M of the ALDL.  
Pin B of the ALDL looks to not be populated.  A is ground, L is for the 
airbag module serial bus, and M is also shared with the EBCM (anti-lock 
brain box.)

HTH!
TomV


Jim Butterfield wrote:

>ODB II didnt come to pass until late 96 and 97+ cars and trucks.. I have a 94 GA and it was an ODBI system.... got the plug to prove it
>   
>  jim
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>don.broadus at exeloncorp.com wrote:
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>Recommendation: 
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>Hello: I got a 16191947 (BFTD) ECM out of a 1994 Grand Am. The original engine was a SOHC Quad 4 Vin "3" The engine in the car
>when I parted it out was a 1993 Quad 4 DOHC. The ECM does not have a wire at Pin D6 on the Lt. Blue connector . This is the Diag Test Terminal "B" on the ALDL in the 1993 wiring diagram. I didn't get the ALDL connector from the car so I was wondering is this an early OBII ECM for 1994 ? Thanks 
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