[Diy_efi] Is E85 worth it?

Bobby Yates Emory liberty1
Sun Sep 3 05:03:48 UTC 2006


The URL for Elsbett is:

http://www.elsbett.com/

Then you pick your language.

Bobby

On 9/2/06, Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Torgjorn,
>
> (sorry about the second O)
>
> I agree with most of what you say, but there have been many reports of
> problems with blends.  (The last thing I read implied they had discovered
> what caused the problem, but I have not seen confirmation.)
>
> If SVO or WVO is used in a properly revised car, it can work well.  If you
> were referring to an unmodified car, you are correct, there can be extreme
> problems.  If you are interested in learning more, Elsbett in Germany is the
> class act (many others have workable systems.)
>
> Bobby
>
>
> On 9/2/06, Torbj?rn Forsman <torbjorn.forsman at gengas.nu> wrote:
> >
> > There are a lot of different fluids that are called biodiesel today.
> > Some of them, those produced in a Fischer-Tropsch process, are almost
> > 100 % equivalent to ordinary petroleum-based diesel fuel. Such biodiesel
> > can be used in any diesel engine without modifications or problems.
> >
> > Another flavor is the RME and similar fuels. This is vegetable oils
> > which have been chemically modified "estherized". Top quality RME works
> > perfectly in most diesel engines but is said that it might cause higher
> > NOx emissions than petroleum based diesel, at least in modern engines
> > that are optimized for low emissions. It is also said to deteriorate
> > some plastic and rubber materials, but this seems not to be a large
> > problem. For example, Volkswagen permits use of RME in all their diesel
> > cars from about 2001 on.
> > Some people have problems with "home made" RME which may be corrosive or
> >
> >   dirty.
> >
> > And last, we have unmodified vegetable oils. This is not a good diesel
> > fuel, it often causes cold start problems and may give coke build-up
> > around the injectors. But many diesel cars run well on a mixture of 50 %
> >
> > vegetable oil and 50 % petroleum based fuel.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Torbj?rn Forsman
> >
> >
> > Ian Molton wrote:
> > > WSCowell at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Bio diesel is cheaper than diesel from petroleum, lubricates the
> > >> engine and  injection pump better and kicks out greatly reduced
> > >> emissions of all the nasty  stuff:  NOx, S, CO and the harmful
> > >> carcinogens and particulates.  The  best thing is it is totally
> > >> carbon-neutral - it only puts back into the  atmosphere the carbon
> > the
> > >> plant took out in the first place.  Performance  is totally
> > unaffected.
> > >
> > >
> > > I was under the impression that biodiesel caused issues for some IPs?
> > > too thick to pump or something? Either way I'd like your source on
> > that
> > > as it sounds like you're pretty clued up on biodiesel and I'd like to
> > > know more.
> > >
> > >> Poor performance from a diesel?  Wake up and smell the  coffee!
> > >
> > >
> > > Absolutely!  (btw, my last mileage figure as of today... 68.1MPG over
> > > the last 200 miles :-)) now if I could just work out why its smoking
> > > when its working hard, I'd be sorted (bet its burnt injectors)
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>
> Bobby Yates Emory
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