[Diy_efi] Ford 460 MPI and controllers - and a note on the Valiant

[Clair Davis]

After hitting ebay last night, it looks like the EFI manifolds for 460's are
nearly a dime a dozen.  They're not very sexy as manifolds go, pretty
low-profile, but they only have to flow air, I suppose.  Anyone know if
there was a simple locked-advance distributor used on those critters?  Not
sure if Ford played with computer-controlled timing w/o EFI to the extent
that Chrysler did in the late-70's and early 80's.  I know one of those
would do the trick from a spark standpoint.

A note on my Valiant:  It's a 69 2-door sedan, white, of course, and I'm
running a 340 (5.6L) V8.  The engine is pretty tame in general, it's set up
to be a warm daily driver and autocross racer once I get her back on the
road for good.  Crane HMVV272 cam, 8.5:1 CR, headers, exhaust, the usual
hot-rod tweaks.  In carbed form, she made 260hp at the rear wheels, through
a 4-speed trans.  The EFI is based on a 7730 box with a chip provided by the
folks that set up the bones of my kit.  I've changed a lot of parts in the
kit as I adapted it to what I wanted to achieve visually, and from a
parts-replacement perspective.  Mopar billet throttle body, M1 single-plane
intake with injector bosses, Magnum truck fuel rails, IAC motor, MAP sensor,
& TPS, adjustable FPR, Ford F-150 external fuel pump, Facet lift pump, and
VW surge tank.  So far, she runs well enough, but she doesn't recover well
if you blip the throttle at idle, and doesn't establish an idle well when
cold.  I think my IAC may still not be set up right.  That said, throttle
response is GREAT, and once I can get her to idle with a bit more vacuum,
she'll be happier, I'm sure.  The cam isn't hot enough to justify the
12"hg/320kPa she's seeing now.  She would idle at 13-14" with the carb, so
I've got some playing to do.

Clair


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike V" <efi at dyakron.com>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] Ford 460 MPI and controllers


> Definitely!  Go for it.
> The EFI 460 parts are out there, and as you say,
> the GM ECM is adaptable.
> Now, how is the Valliant running and which code did you use?
> Staock cam?
> Tell us more.
> Cheers,
> MV
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clair Davis" <clair.davis at charter.net>
> To: "diy_efi" <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:27 PM
> Subject: [Diy_efi] Ford 460 MPI and controllers
>
>
> > Now that my EFI project is somewhat functional, my Dad is asking about
> > what
> > it would take to inject one of his 460's.  Now I'm not a Ford guy at
all,
> > not that I don't like them, I just never owned one so it's a matter of
> > ignorance, not spite.  That said, It's my understanding that multi-point
> > 460's were an OEM option from the late 80's to mid-90's at least, so
> > salvage
> > parts should be easy to come by.  Since the plumbing/wiring parts should
> > be
> > pretty straight-forward, I'm mostly curious about the preferred ways of
> > running one of these critters might be.
> >
> > I suspect that Ford probably used some sort of MAF, controlled by their
> > EEC-whatever box.  My personal experience lies with GM ECM's, the 7730
in
> > particular.  I do have a couple 7727's in the garage that could be used
> > for
> > this job.  From a pure practicality standpoint, I think I'd prefer to
run
> > this engine with a GM controller as well, as I have some capacity to
tune
> > the thing with the hardware/software I have on hand.
> >
> > With all that said, is there a "preferred" way to run a modified 460
using
> > mostly factory injection parts?  To start, this engine will be basically
> > recammed, perhaps with headers and a good exhaust.  I don't think this
> > will
> > be any sort of wild tune at all.  Any suggestions or time-saving
measures
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Clair
> > 69 Valiant 340/7730
> > Fort Worth, TX
> >
> >
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