From tmechanic at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  4 17:36:52 2006
From: tmechanic at yahoo.com (Brian Toberman)
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 15:36:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Efi332] board purchase
Message-ID: <20060204233652.28464.qmail@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys, the
messages just showed up in my inbox today.

Yes I'm still interested in a board.

Brian T
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:44:01 -0800
> From: Robert <efi332 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Efi332] board purchase
> To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
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> Brian Toberman wrote:
> 
> >Who do I contact to purchase a 4 layer board, or
> will
> >I need to make my own brd.
> >
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> >  
> >
> As JC stated, there are 4 layer boards collecting
> dust.  I know because 
> a have a couple.  The first one was part of the
> original group buy.  It 
> was supposed to be assembled by Charles, but he ran
> into problems and 
> never completed the assembly.  It is missing 8 of
> the ICs.  U1 & U2 
> (MC145051), U3 (MC33298P), U6 (UDN2916B) U7 & U8
> (LM1815N) U9 & 10 
> (74HCT125N).  It is also missing the dip switch, the
> jumper posts and 
> some caps and resistors.  The other board, which I
> bought through and 
> online auction, is complete but has a piece of
> masking tape indicating 
> "NO BDM MODE."  I bought this later board as a spare
> and for the parts.  
> I do not have the ability to test or troubleshoot
> either board.  
> However, the incomplete board purportedly passed the
> CPU test when it 
> was being assembled by Charles.  At least that is
> what the tag says.  If 
> you are interested let me know.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:58:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: Brian Toberman <tmechanic at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Efi332] board purchase
> To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
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> Thanks guys, I'll keep asking.
> Maybe I'll try my hand at etching a 2 layer brd in
> the
> mean time.
> 
> Brian T.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:12:18 +1100
> From: "Wayne Macdonald" <wmcdonal at optushome.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Efi332] board purchase
> To: <efi332 at diy-efi.org>
> Message-ID: <115101c5fc76$bf24af00$6401a8c0 at wayne2k>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I have a complete 4-layer board and parts kit that
> has never been built, let
> me know if you are interested.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Eicher" <sailors3 at comcast.net>
> To: <efi332 at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 12:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [Efi332] board purchase
> 
> 
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > I don't know what to tell you. I sold my board
> about a year ago. It's
> being
> > used in a race car. I don't know of any for sale.
> Sorry I can't help.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org
> [mailto:efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org] On
> > Behalf Of Brian Toberman
> > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:13 AM
> > To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
> > Subject: [Efi332] board purchase
> >
> > Who do I contact to purchase a 4 layer board, or
> will
> > I need to make my own brd.
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:58:16 -0800
> From: "David Eicher" <sailors3 at comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [Efi332] Queued SCI transmit with
> interrupts on MPC555
> To: <efi332 at diy-efi.org>
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Okay, I'll watch for an email from you today (Friday
> 12/9), then we can
> hookup by phone.
> 
> Appreciate the help,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org
> [mailto:efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org] On
> Behalf Of John Honnold
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:27 AM
> To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
> Subject: RE: [Efi332] Queued SCI transmit with
> interrupts on MPC555
> 
> David:
> 
>    I am swamped today.  I will call you tomorrow.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Honnold
> 
> --- David Eicher <sailors3 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi John,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > This morning I got up, fired up the machine, and
> ran
> > this again. Now it does
> > not work..., it ran several times last night but
> > after being powered down
> > all night, it does not. I must have had the
> hardware
> > in some state that
> > allowed it to work, which I can't duplicate this
> > morning. So, I'm still
> > trying to figure out a combination of "start
> > transmit" code and ISR that
> > will keep the queue transmitting reliably. Does
> you
> > or anyone have an
> > suggestions about what is wrong/missing from this
> > code?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org
> > [mailto:efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org] On
> > Behalf Of David Eicher
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:25 PM
> > To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
> > Subject: RE: [Efi332] Queued SCI transmit with
> > interrupts on MPC555
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > Thanks for your response. Yep, I'm trying to get
> the
> > QSCI to work on the
> > MPC555 for transmit. I've just got a block of data
> I
> > need to transmit.
> > 
> > I've implemented the code per the demo code in the
> > quickstart package, it
> > just flat does not work for me. I've tried both
> use
> > the two interrupts (QBHE
> > and QTHE), and tried just using the QBHE interrupt
> > alone (filling queue with
> > 16 bytes each time), and had no success for many
> > hours.
> > 
> > Just earlier tonight I finally managed to get one
> > approach to the point it
> > appears it is working (more testing required yet
> > though). I'm using just the
> > QBHE interrupt and flag, filling the queue with 16
> > bytes each time. The demo
> > code does not include a "set QTE and TE" in the
> ISR
> > after the queue is
> > loaded, but it doesn't seem to transmit without
> it.
> > There is nothing I've
> > found in the users manual for MPC555 that
> indicates
> > that this is required,
> > but I've had to keep turning the queue on over and
> > over again to keep it
> > transmitting. 
> > 
> > Is this correct? Or am I just bandaiding some
> error
> > in my code with the
> > setting of QTE and TE?
> > 
> > I"ll include the code I've found that works, I'd
> > appreciate your comments on
> > it:
> > 
> > Thanks much,
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> >
>
---------------------------------------------------------
> > start transmit
> >
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >             for (i=0;i<16;i++) scratch[i] = 'a';
> > 
> >             
> > 
> >             ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1,
> QSCI_ENABLE_TX_WRAP,
> > SCI_ENABLE); 
> > 
> >             ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1,
> > QSCI_WRITE_QUEUE_TX_SIZE, 16);
> > 
> >             
> > 
> >             /* read SR with TC set */
> > 
> >             while(!(ioctl(QSMCM_SCI1,
> SCI_GET_FLAGS,
> > SCI_TX_COMPLETE))) {;}
> > 
> > 
> >             
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >               /* fill the whole buffer */  
> > 
> >               write(QSMCM_QSCI1, QUEUE_TOP_HALF,
> > scratch, 16);
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >               /* Clear top half and bottom half
> > flags QTHE/QBHE */
> > 
> >               ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1,
> > QSCI_CLEAR_QUEUE_FLAGS, QSCI_TX_TOP_HALF);
> > 
> >               ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1,
> > QSCI_CLEAR_QUEUE_FLAGS, QSCI_TX_BOT_HALF);
> > 
> >             
> > 
> >               /* Set queued enable flag in control
> > register QTE */
> > 
> > 
> >               ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1, QSCI_QUEUE_TX,
> > SCI_ENABLE);
> > 
> >               /* Set QSCI transmit enable flag in
> > control register TE */
> > 
> >               ioctl(QSMCM_SCI1, SCI_TRANSMITTER,
> > SCI_ENABLE);
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >
>
---------------------------------------------------------
> > ISR
> >
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   if (ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1, QSCI_GET_QUEUE_FLAGS,
> > QSCI_TX_BOT_HALF))
> > 
> >   {
> > 
> >       ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1, QSCI_ENABLE_TX_WRAP,
> > SCI_ENABLE); 
> > 
> >       ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1, QSCI_WRITE_QUEUE_TX_SIZE,
> > 16);
> > 
> >        /* read SR with TC set */
> > 
> >       while(!(ioctl(QSMCM_SCI1, SCI_GET_FLAGS,
> > SCI_TX_COMPLETE))) {;}  
> > 
> >       for (i=0;i<14;i++) scratch[i] = 'c';
> > 
> >       scratch[14] = (u_char)13;
> > 
> >       scratch[15] = (u_char)10;
> > 
> >       write(QSMCM_QSCI1, QUEUE_TOP_HALF, scratch,
> > 16);
> > 
> >       ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1, QSCI_CLEAR_QUEUE_FLAGS,
> > QSCI_TX_TOP_HALF);
> > 
> >       ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1, QSCI_CLEAR_QUEUE_FLAGS,
> > QSCI_TX_BOT_HALF);
> > 
> >       if (data[0]< 6)  /* stop after 5 interrupts
> */
> > 
> >       {
> > 
> >          ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1, QSCI_QUEUE_TX,
> > SCI_ENABLE);
> > 
> >          ioctl(QSMCM_SCI1, SCI_TRANSMITTER,
> > SCI_ENABLE);
> > 
> >       }
> > 
> >       else
> > 
> >       {
> > 
> >          ioctl(QSMCM_QSCI1, QSCI_QUEUE_TX,
> > SCI_DISABLE);
> > 
> >          ioctl(QSMCM_SCI1, SCI_TRANSMITTER,
> > SCI_DISABLE);
> > 
> >       }
> > 
> >    }
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org
> > [mailto:efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org] On
> > Behalf Of John Honnold
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:31 PM
> > To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Efi332] Queued SCI transmit with
> > interrupts on MPC555
> > 
> > David:
> > 
> >    What seems to be the problem?  I work for
> > Freescale
> > 
> > with the MCUs, so I may be able to help.  Let me
> > know
> > 
> > some specifics.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > John Honnold
> > 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:50:29 +0000
> From: john.hoyenga at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Efi332] board purchase
> To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
> Message-ID:
> 
>
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> 
> Hello, sorry it took so long to get back to you, I
> forgot about this e-mail address. How much is the
> complete set with a 4 layer board? is the parts kit
> you have complete?
> 
> thanks
> -John-
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Wayne Macdonald" <wmcdonal at optushome.com.au> 
> 
> > I have a complete 4-layer board and parts kit that
> has never been built, let 
> > me know if you are interested. 
> > 
> > Wayne 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David Eicher" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 12:22 PM 
> > Subject: RE: [Efi332] board purchase 
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Brian, 
> > > 
> > > I don't know what to tell you. I sold my board
> about a year ago. It's 
> > being 
> > > used in a race car. I don't know of any for
> sale. Sorry I can't help. 
> > > 
> > > Regards, 
> > > 
> > > Dave 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org
> [mailto:efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org] On 
> > > Behalf Of Brian Toberman 
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:13 AM 
> > > To: efi332 at diy-efi.org 
> > > Subject: [Efi332] board purchase 
> > > 
> > > Who do I contact to purchase a 4 layer board, or
> will 
> > > I need to make my own brd. 
> > > 
> > >
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From PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com  Sat Feb  4 19:41:38 2006
From: PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com (Paul Helmuth)
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:41:38 -0600
Subject: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up?
Message-ID: <006601c629f5$4ea4b020$6b7ba8c0@p2450>

Jeff, Dave, et.al,

Guys - it's been a long time since I have checked in with the group. 

Unfortunately some major remodeling has been sucking up all of my spare time since sometime in October. Perhaps even more unfortunate, I'm still not done. On the bright side, only the master bathroom is left - so I will start sneaking some time in on the ECU development.

I have actually done a little work recently on a related sub-project. That is, development of a Windows Mobile application for tuning. I'm new to development in Windows Mobile, so it's going to take some time before I have it as functional as my standard Windows app, but I have got some of the basic serial communication stuff working. Which is what prompts me to check in and see what the current status is on interrupt driven serial I/O from the MPC555.

I read Dave's last post and that sounds like there are mixed results.

Hopefully I can get back to working on the serial i/o on the ECU side within the next several weeks.

Hope all had safe and happy holidays,

-Paul
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From sailors3 at comcast.net  Sun Feb  5 11:13:02 2006
From: sailors3 at comcast.net (sailors3 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:13:02 +0000
Subject: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up?
Message-ID: <020520061713.4216.43E6321E0000C25D000010782207021553CC9C9D0104070E9C@comcast.net>

Hi Paul,

Nice to hear from you! I know what you mean about side projects, my car project get set aside for 2 1/2 years while I built a large addition on the back of our house. I had just bought a 1998  LS1 from a wrecked Camaro (in 1999) and by the time I get that thing running in my 64 Impala it will be obsolete!

Yes, I finally managed to get the QSCI running on the transmit side, using interrupts. I just used the bottom half empty interrupt, it seems to be working very good. There are errors in the Freescale documentation, and omissions that make it very hard to figure out how to use it, but time and determination won. We are now thinking we need to go interrupt driven on the receive side too, but have not implemented that yet.

regards,

dave


-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Paul Helmuth" <PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com> 

Jeff, Dave, et.al,

Guys - it's been a long time since I have checked in with the group. 

Unfortunately some major remodeling has been sucking up all of my spare time since sometime in October. Perhaps even more unfortunate, I'm still not done. On the bright side, only the master bathroom is left - so I will start sneaking some time in on the ECU development.

I have actually done a little work recently on a related sub-project. That is, development of a Windows Mobile application for tuning. I'm new to development in Windows Mobile, so it's going to take some time before I have it as functional as my standard Windows app, but I have got some of the basic serial communication stuff working. Which is what prompts me to check in and see what the current status is on interrupt driven serial I/O from the MPC555.

I read Dave's last post and that sounds like there are mixed results.

Hopefully I can get back to working on the serial i/o on the ECU side within the next several weeks.

Hope all had safe and happy holidays,

-Paul
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From sailors3 at comcast.net  Sun Feb  5 11:15:15 2006
From: sailors3 at comcast.net (sailors3 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:15:15 +0000
Subject: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up?
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Hi Paul,

Forgot to ask about the Mobile stuff you referred to. How does that work? I need to be working on a means of tuning myself.

thanks,

dave


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Jeff, Dave, et.al,

Guys - it's been a long time since I have checked in with the group. 

Unfortunately some major remodeling has been sucking up all of my spare time since sometime in October. Perhaps even more unfortunate, I'm still not done. On the bright side, only the master bathroom is left - so I will start sneaking some time in on the ECU development.

I have actually done a little work recently on a related sub-project. That is, development of a Windows Mobile application for tuning. I'm new to development in Windows Mobile, so it's going to take some time before I have it as functional as my standard Windows app, but I have got some of the basic serial communication stuff working. Which is what prompts me to check in and see what the current status is on interrupt driven serial I/O from the MPC555.

I read Dave's last post and that sounds like there are mixed results.

Hopefully I can get back to working on the serial i/o on the ECU side within the next several weeks.

Hope all had safe and happy holidays,

-Paul
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From PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com  Sun Feb  5 12:53:06 2006
From: PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com (Paul Helmuth)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 12:53:06 -0600
Subject: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up? (QSCI & Mobile Tuning)
References: <020520061713.4216.43E6321E0000C25D000010782207021553CC9C9D0104070E9C@comcast.net>
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Dave,

Super news on the QSCI! Any chance that I could get some code snippets to use as reference to get that running in my system?

64 Impala - nice. My first car was a 1965 Impala 396. It was 15 years old when I got it in 1980, but it was super clean and only had 63,000 miles on it. Every once in a while I see a nice '65 or '66 and think it would be great fun to have another one. If I only had the time, money, and space.

Regarding the mobile tuning: It's not much different (at least conceptually) from a laptop type tuning application except for the serial communication on the PDA side and the fact that you don't have much "screen" to work with. Probably the most difficult thing about it is that it is yet another development and operating environment to "figure out".

The big plus to a hand-held application is of course the size. It's a LOT easier to have a PDA in the car than it is to have a full size laptop.

Initially, I had planed on developing a hand-held app on Palm because of their market share in the PDA market. However, in the time it has taken me to develop the rest of the stuff (to this point) - Windows Mobile has grown by leaps and bounds (relatively speaking). So I decided to go Windows Mobile/PocketPC.

I upgraded my Microsoft Visual Studio to 2005 so that it would support the latest .Net Compact Framework (2.0) which has much improved support for serial communications and higher resolution PDA screens. I bought an HP IPAQ hx4700 PocketPC which has a nice VGA display (640x480) which can operate in portrait or landscape mode; a fairly fast processor, and a lot of RAM and ROM (for PDAs).

In "Phase I", I just want to get the basic mechanics of the serial I/O working between the PDA and the ECU. After that is sorted, I can think about the "best" approach for a user interface. Initially, I was thinking to use the higher screen resolution to keep the interface similar to my laptop application, but after playing with it a little, I'm not so sure that's going to the best way to go. We'll see.

As of now, my "tuner" application is really only a monitor - as I don't have the ECU side developed enough to actually tune. So what is functional is that the ECU will continuously pump out "frames" of engine operating parameters like RPM, Ignition Advance, etc. and the "tuning" application displays the real-time engine data.

Hope that's enough info to give you some idea of what I am doing.

Please let me know about the code snippets for the QSCI - it would be really helpful to have a working model to reference.

-Paul


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sailors3 at comcast.net 
  To: efi332 at diy-efi.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up?


  Hi Paul,

  Nice to hear from you! I know what you mean about side projects, my car project get set aside for 2 1/2 years while I built a large addition on the back of our house. I had just bought a 1998  LS1 from a wrecked Camaro (in 1999) and by the time I get that thing running in my 64 Impala it will be obsolete!

  Yes, I finally managed to get the QSCI running on the transmit side, using interrupts. I just used the bottom half empty interrupt, it seems to be working very good. There are errors in the Freescale documentation, and omissions that make it very hard to figure out how to use it, but time and determination won. We are now thinking we need to go interrupt driven on the receive side too, but have not implemented that yet.

  regards,

  dave


    -------------- Original message -------------- 
    From: "Paul Helmuth" <PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com> 

    Jeff, Dave, et.al,

    Guys - it's been a long time since I have checked in with the group. 

    Unfortunately some major remodeling has been sucking up all of my spare time since sometime in October. Perhaps even more unfortunate, I'm still not done. On the bright side, only the master bathroom is left - so I will start sneaking some time in on the ECU development.

    I have actually done a little work recently on a related sub-project. That is, development of a Windows Mobile application for tuning. I'm new to development in Windows Mobile, so it's going to take some time before I have it as functional as my standard Windows app, but I have got some of the basic serial communication stuff working. Which is what prompts me to check in and see what the current status is on interrupt driven serial I/O from the MPC555.

    I read Dave's last post and that sounds like there are mixed results.

    Hopefully I can get back to working on the serial i/o on the ECU side within the next several weeks.

    Hope all had safe and happy holidays,

    -Paul


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From BowTieVette at aol.com  Sun Feb  5 14:44:00 2006
From: BowTieVette at aol.com (BowTieVette at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:44:00 EST
Subject: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up?
Message-ID: <2e2.1bcddb8.3117bd90@aol.com>

 
Hey Paul,
When you refer to interrupt driven serial comm, there are two flavors of  
course, and I'm not sure which you mean. There is the regular byte by byte SCI,  
and there is the 16 byte queue QSCI layer. 
The interrupt driven SCI code has been around for a long while having been  
adapted from a Motorola app note years ago. You can find that in the now  
somewhat dated efi332 software archives at SourceForge. 
If you're after QSCI, then you'll need Dave's edition which works quite  well.
jc
 
In a message dated 2/5/2006 12:41:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sailors3 at comcast.net writes:

Hi Paul,
 
Nice to hear from you! I know what you mean about side projects, my car  
project get set aside for 2 1/2 years while I built a large addition on the  back 
of our house. I had just bought a 1998  LS1 from a wrecked Camaro  (in 1999) 
and by the time I get that thing running in my 64 Impala it will be  obsolete!
 
Yes, I finally managed to get the QSCI running on the transmit side,  using 
interrupts. I just used the bottom half empty interrupt, it seems to be  
working very good. There are errors in the Freescale documentation, and  omissions 
that make it very hard to figure out how to use it, but time and  determination 
won. We are now thinking we need to go interrupt driven on the  receive side 
too, but have not implemented that yet.
 
regards,
 
dave
 
 

--------------  Original message -------------- 
From: "Paul Helmuth"  <PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com> 
Jeff, Dave, et.al,
 
Guys - it's been a long time since I have  checked in with the group. 
 
Unfortunately some major remodeling has been  sucking up all of my spare time 
since sometime in October. Perhaps even more  unfortunate, I'm still not 
done. On the bright side, only the master  bathroom is left - so I will start 
sneaking some time in on the ECU  development.
 
I have actually done a little work recently on  a related sub-project. That 
is, development of a Windows Mobile application  for tuning. I'm new to 
development in Windows Mobile, so it's going to take  some time before I have it as 
functional as my standard Windows app, but I  have got some of the basic serial 
communication stuff working. Which is  what prompts me to check in and see 
what the current status is on interrupt  driven serial I/O from the MPC555.
 
I read Dave's last post and that sounds like  there are mixed results.
 
Hopefully I can get back to working on the  serial i/o on the ECU side within 
the next several weeks.
 
Hope all had safe and happy  holidays,
 
-




 
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From PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com  Sun Feb  5 16:21:19 2006
From: PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com (Paul Helmuth)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 16:21:19 -0600
Subject: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up? (plain int vs que)
References: <2e2.1bcddb8.3117bd90@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00a401c62aa2$7f229840$6b7ba8c0@p2450>

Jeff,

Yes - I'm with you on the two different flavors. I think it makes sense to go ahead and implement the queued stuff (if possible).

-Paul
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: BowTieVette at aol.com 
  To: efi332 at diy-efi.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up?


  Hey Paul,
  When you refer to interrupt driven serial comm, there are two flavors of course, and I'm not sure which you mean. There is the regular byte by byte SCI, and there is the 16 byte queue QSCI layer. 
  The interrupt driven SCI code has been around for a long while having been adapted from a Motorola app note years ago. You can find that in the now somewhat dated efi332 software archives at SourceForge. 
  If you're after QSCI, then you'll need Dave's edition which works quite well.
  jc

  In a message dated 2/5/2006 12:41:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sailors3 at comcast.net writes:
    Hi Paul,

    Nice to hear from you! I know what you mean about side projects, my car project get set aside for 2 1/2 years while I built a large addition on the back of our house. I had just bought a 1998  LS1 from a wrecked Camaro (in 1999) and by the time I get that thing running in my 64 Impala it will be obsolete!

    Yes, I finally managed to get the QSCI running on the transmit side, using interrupts. I just used the bottom half empty interrupt, it seems to be working very good. There are errors in the Freescale documentation, and omissions that make it very hard to figure out how to use it, but time and determination won. We are now thinking we need to go interrupt driven on the receive side too, but have not implemented that yet.

    regards,

    dave


      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Paul Helmuth" <PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com> 

      Jeff, Dave, et.al,

      Guys - it's been a long time since I have checked in with the group. 

      Unfortunately some major remodeling has been sucking up all of my spare time since sometime in October. Perhaps even more unfortunate, I'm still not done. On the bright side, only the master bathroom is left - so I will start sneaking some time in on the ECU development.

      I have actually done a little work recently on a related sub-project. That is, development of a Windows Mobile application for tuning. I'm new to development in Windows Mobile, so it's going to take some time before I have it as functional as my standard Windows app, but I have got some of the basic serial communication stuff working. Which is what prompts me to check in and see what the current status is on interrupt driven serial I/O from the MPC555.

      I read Dave's last post and that sounds like there are mixed results.

      Hopefully I can get back to working on the serial i/o on the ECU side within the next several weeks.

      Hope all had safe and happy holidays,

      -



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From bowtievette at aol.com  Sun Feb  5 20:19:11 2006
From: bowtievette at aol.com (bowtievette at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:19:11 -0500
Subject: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up? (plain int vs que)
In-Reply-To: <00a401c62aa2$7f229840$6b7ba8c0@p2450>
References: <2e2.1bcddb8.3117bd90@aol.com>
	<00a401c62aa2$7f229840$6b7ba8c0@p2450>
Message-ID: <8C7F8DADA148370-13C8-3EB2@mblk-r18.sysops.aol.com>

The queued stuff is a definite improvement on the SCI for continous streams. On the receive side though, where you have intermittent short messages, the SCI is better so you may want to use a hybrid solution . YMMV.
 
If you can, would you send me a pic of your hardware off list (the list won't take attachments)? I'd like to see your setup.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Helmuth <PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com>
To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
Sent: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 16:21:19 -0600
Subject: Re: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up? (plain int vs que)


Jeff,
 
Yes - I'm with you on the two different flavors. I think it makes sense to go ahead and implement the queued stuff (if possible).
 
-Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: BowTieVette at aol.com 
To: efi332 at diy-efi.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Efi332] Hey guys - what's up?


Hey Paul,
When you refer to interrupt driven serial comm, there are two flavors of course, and I'm not sure which you mean. There is the regular byte by byte SCI, and there is the 16 byte queue QSCI layer. 
The interrupt driven SCI code has been around for a long while having been adapted from a Motorola app note years ago. You can find that in the now somewhat dated efi332 software archives at SourceForge. 
If you're after QSCI, then you'll need Dave's edition which works quite well.
jc
 
In a message dated 2/5/2006 12:41:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sailors3 at comcast.net writes:
Hi Paul,
 
Nice to hear from you! I know what you mean about side projects, my car project get set aside for 2 1/2 years while I built a large addition on the back of our house. I had just bought a 1998  LS1 from a wrecked Camaro (in 1999) and by the time I get that thing running in my 64 Impala it will be obsolete!
 
Yes, I finally managed to get the QSCI running on the transmit side, using interrupts. I just used the bottom half empty interrupt, it seems to be working very good. There are errors in the Freescale documentation, and omissions that make it very hard to figure out how to use it, but time and determination won. We are now thinking we need to go interrupt driven on the receive side too, but have not implemented that yet.
 
regards,
 
dave
 
 
-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Paul Helmuth" <PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com> 

Jeff, Dave, et.al,
 
Guys - it's been a long time since I have checked in with the group. 
 
Unfortunately some major remodeling has been sucking up all of my spare time since sometime in October. Perhaps even more unfortunate, I'm still not done. On the bright side, only the master bathroom is left - so I will start sneaking some time in on the ECU development.
 
I have actually done a little work recently on a related sub-project. That is, development of a Windows Mobile application for tuning. I'm new to development in Windows Mobile, so it's going to take some time before I have it as functional as my standard Windows app, but I have got some of the basic serial communication stuff working. Which is what prompts me to check in and see what the current status is on interrupt driven serial I/O from the MPC555.
 
I read Dave's last post and that sounds like there are mixed results.
 
Hopefully I can get back to working on the serial i/o on the ECU side within the next several weeks.
 
Hope all had safe and happy holidays,
 
-
 



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From Steve.Ravet at arm.com  Mon Feb  6 23:24:04 2006
From: Steve.Ravet at arm.com (Steve Ravet)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 23:24:04 -0600
Subject: [Efi332] comments on reorganizing lists
Message-ID: <DBB2E4C4173F1749B6C7434140611783C948F4@NASDAQ.usa.Arm.com>

I've thought about moving the lists to the forum style format that most
other internet groups use -- corral.net, thirdgen, etc.  I've been
opposed to this for some time, liking the email format these lists have
always used.  So I've put together a list of what I think the pros and
cons of each are and I'd like to solicit some discussion and opinions on
whether a switch would be good or bad.

email pros:
1)  new posts come to your inbox, or can be filtered to another box.

email cons:
1)  surprisingly high bandwidth usage
2)  archive/search engine isn't automatic.

forum pros:
1)  possibly lower bandwidth
2)  message context always available.  Don't have to depend on included
replies or memory to know if the discussion started out about Ford or GM
intakes, for example.
3)  archive/searching built in.
4)  sticky posts mean good information doesn't disappear into the
archive abyss.

forum cons:
1)  overly cute dancing smiley faces
2)  chatty
3)  no digest mode (?)

The owner may be able to turn off dancing icons, and I don't know if the
chatty-ness of other forums is due to the list membership or encouraged
by the format.  An ideal solution may be like yahoo where you can sign
up for email delivery of all posts if you want.  Note, I am not
suggesting moving the lists to yahoo.

If the switch is made I plan on having the same lists available,
possibly dropping the diy_wb list since it's very low traffic and on
topic for diy_efi.  I don't plan on having a lounge forum.

Anyway, if you have an addition to the pros and cons listed above send
it, and if you have an opinion on switching send that also.

--steve


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From PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com  Tue Feb  7 22:33:05 2006
From: PaulHelmuth at SprintMail.com (Paul Helmuth)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 22:33:05 -0600
Subject: [Efi332] comments on reorganizing lists
References: <DBB2E4C4173F1749B6C7434140611783C948F4@NASDAQ.usa.Arm.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c62c68$c1ba22a0$6b7ba8c0@p2450>

Steve,

>From a "consumers perspective" (user) - I don't think there is a huge 
difference. Though, if I had to pick one, I'd say there is more pro than con 
to switching. I'm thinking mostly of the search capabilities, archiving and 
context.

The bottom line is that I'd be happy (and am happy) to use whatever is 
available.

Thanks for your efforts,
-Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ravet" <Steve.Ravet at arm.com>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>; <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>; "efi_332" 
<efi332 at diy-efi.org>; <wbo2 at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: [Efi332] comments on reorganizing lists


I've thought about moving the lists to the forum style format that most
other internet groups use -- corral.net, thirdgen, etc.  I've been
opposed to this for some time, liking the email format these lists have
always used.  So I've put together a list of what I think the pros and
cons of each are and I'd like to solicit some discussion and opinions on
whether a switch would be good or bad.

email pros:
1)  new posts come to your inbox, or can be filtered to another box.

email cons:
1)  surprisingly high bandwidth usage
2)  archive/search engine isn't automatic.

forum pros:
1)  possibly lower bandwidth
2)  message context always available.  Don't have to depend on included
replies or memory to know if the discussion started out about Ford or GM
intakes, for example.
3)  archive/searching built in.
4)  sticky posts mean good information doesn't disappear into the
archive abyss.

forum cons:
1)  overly cute dancing smiley faces
2)  chatty
3)  no digest mode (?)

The owner may be able to turn off dancing icons, and I don't know if the
chatty-ness of other forums is due to the list membership or encouraged
by the format.  An ideal solution may be like yahoo where you can sign
up for email delivery of all posts if you want.  Note, I am not
suggesting moving the lists to yahoo.

If the switch is made I plan on having the same lists available,
possibly dropping the diy_wb list since it's very low traffic and on
topic for diy_efi.  I don't plan on having a lounge forum.

Anyway, if you have an addition to the pros and cons listed above send
it, and if you have an opinion on switching send that also.

--steve


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From bowtievette at aol.com  Wed Feb  8 06:44:29 2006
From: bowtievette at aol.com (bowtievette at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:44:29 -0500
Subject: [Efi332] comments on reorganizing lists
In-Reply-To: <DBB2E4C4173F1749B6C7434140611783C948F4@NASDAQ.usa.Arm.com>
References: <DBB2E4C4173F1749B6C7434140611783C948F4@NASDAQ.usa.Arm.com>
Message-ID: <8C7FAC48988C939-13C8-E8D4@mblk-r18.sysops.aol.com>

Steve,
I think you've captured most of the important issues and for efi332 for sure, the pros definitely outweigh the cons. Our bandwidth here is so dreadfully low that the history benefit alone makes it worth switching formats.
 
On a related note, the efi332 list is essentially dead, and one could easily make the argument that it could be eliminated. That said, I think there is an efi332 contingent out there who are generically interested in "from scratch" efi development that occasionally use this list as an outlet. However, with the list name and web pages being so specific and the format being non-friendly for browsing, my sense is that we don't attract the newer guys who were never involved in the '332.
 
What I would propose is that along with a switch (assuming you decide to pursue it), that we change the list name to something more generic in an attempt to draw in more folks. I don't frequent the other diy lists but my recollection is that even the diy list focuses more on OEM controller hacking and tuning than on from scratch hardware and software design. If this isn't the case, someone speak up and set me straight.
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ravet <Steve.Ravet at arm.com>
To: gmecm at diy-efi.org; diy_efi at diy-efi.org; efi_332 <efi332 at diy-efi.org>; wbo2 at diy-efi.org
Sent: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 23:24:04 -0600
Subject: [Efi332] comments on reorganizing lists


I've thought about moving the lists to the forum style format that most
other internet groups use -- corral.net, thirdgen, etc.  I've been
opposed to this for some time, liking the email format these lists have
always used.  So I've put together a list of what I think the pros and
cons of each are and I'd like to solicit some discussion and opinions on
whether a switch would be good or bad.

email pros:
1)  new posts come to your inbox, or can be filtered to another box.

email cons:
1)  surprisingly high bandwidth usage
2)  archive/search engine isn't automatic.

forum pros:
1)  possibly lower bandwidth
2)  message context always available.  Don't have to depend on included
replies or memory to know if the discussion started out about Ford or GM
intakes, for example.
3)  archive/searching built in.
4)  sticky posts mean good information doesn't disappear into the
archive abyss.

forum cons:
1)  overly cute dancing smiley faces
2)  chatty
3)  no digest mode (?)

The owner may be able to turn off dancing icons, and I don't know if the
chatty-ness of other forums is due to the list membership or encouraged
by the format.  An ideal solution may be like yahoo where you can sign
up for email delivery of all posts if you want.  Note, I am not
suggesting moving the lists to yahoo.

If the switch is made I plan on having the same lists available,
possibly dropping the diy_wb list since it's very low traffic and on
topic for diy_efi.  I don't plan on having a lounge forum.

Anyway, if you have an addition to the pros and cons listed above send
it, and if you have an opinion on switching send that also.

--steve


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From Steve.Ravet at arm.com  Wed Feb  8 09:33:48 2006
From: Steve.Ravet at arm.com (Steve Ravet)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:33:48 -0600
Subject: [Efi332] comments on reorganizing lists
Message-ID: <DBB2E4C4173F1749B6C7434140611783C94C86@NASDAQ.usa.Arm.com>

 

	What I would propose is that along with a switch (assuming you
decide to pursue it), that we change the list name to something more
generic in an attempt to draw in more folks. I don't frequent the other
diy lists but my recollection is that even the diy list focuses more on
OEM controller hacking and tuning than on from scratch hardware and
software design. If this isn't the case, someone speak up and set me
straight.
	 

The DIY list has a wide range of topics, but you're right that there's
not much in the way of discussion about the computing hardware,
algorithms, etc.  The name could change to diy_efi_controller or
something else, or the list could be merged back into diy_efi.  It's
certainly on topic for that list, the reason it was split in the first
place was to avoid arguments like "I think we should use the
8051/Z80/HC12/whatever".
 
I posted the question to all of the lists but since JC runs this one and
since I'm not really involved in the project it I'll let JC and the rest
of y'all decide what to do in terms of changing the name or merging back
to DIY or leaving things as-is.  Nothing has to change, each list can be
it's own format.
 
--steve
 
 

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From yakir.green at intel.com  Wed Feb  8 09:34:38 2006
From: yakir.green at intel.com (Green, Yakir)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 17:34:38 +0200
Subject: [Efi332] Does anyone have the PCB layout files for the 4 layer
	board?
Message-ID: <875C321F70C64D43957EE7FB4C73CB83369CA8@hasmsx413.ger.corp.intel.com>

Hello, all!

 

Am new here, and starting on my EFI project.

I am looking for the files that describe the PCB, so I can create a
board.

 

If anyone has a board and/or part kits, I will be happy to buy it (For a
reasonable price).

 

PS: I prefer Forums to Mailing list, mainly for new comers ...

          

Yakir Green

 

Driver team

Intel BWDi

 

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* 03- 9205772
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From Steve.Ravet at arm.com  Wed Feb  8 10:14:42 2006
From: Steve.Ravet at arm.com (Steve Ravet)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 10:14:42 -0600
Subject: [Efi332] RE: [Gmecm] comments on reorganizing lists
Message-ID: <DBB2E4C4173F1749B6C7434140611783C94CAE@NASDAQ.usa.Arm.com>

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmecm-bounces at diy-efi.org 
> [mailto:gmecm-bounces at diy-efi.org] On Behalf Of Tomas J. Sokorai Sch.
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:36 PM
> To: gmecm at diy-efi.org
> Subject: Re: [Gmecm] comments on reorganizing lists
> 
> On Tuesday 07 February 2006 17:14, Ryan Hess wrote:
> > We have no search function as of now.
> 
> http://www.diy-efi.org/diy_efi/archive_search.php
> 
> It's still a bit beta-quality.

I dropped the ball a little bit on this one.  Tomas has been helping me
out for a couple years at least, writing some perl code behind the
scenes to automate various parts of the list like creating archives.  He
did put together the search engine above, which includes some of the pre
crash archives.  It's not yet automated to index the ongoing archives,
and I haven't gotten around to adding a link to the main pages yet.  Our
current setup requires some ongoing maintenance like this which is one
reason that I started thinking about the forum setup.

So thanks to Tomas (or props, as the kids say) for getting the search
function back together.

I think it's clear that if a forum is created it needs to be in addition
to, not instead of, the current email setup.  The ability to post
pictures is a pro for the forum that I didn't mention that can't really
be done via email, and I'm not going to pretend that the anonymous FTP
site is a comparable replacement.  Here are some thoughts that I've had
that might improve the current situation:

1)  Get the search engine finished up.  It needs to be tied into the
current archives, and the old archives need to be installed and indexed.


2)  Mailman is the mailing list software, and it creates threaded html
archives.  If every posting contained a link back to itself in the html
archive then a single click could allow you to review the context.  For
example, Tomas' post would have included this link at the bottom:

http://lists.diy-efi.org/pipermail/gmecm/2006-February/001275.html

I don't know if mailman can be configured this way but I'll check into
it.

3)  pictures -- the the html archiving software I think already takes
care of saving attachments and creating links to them.  The outbound
email may be able to be modified to include this link instead of the
attachment, or if nothing else then if 1) can be implemented then one
further click after going to the html archive will show the attachment,
if you know to do that.

4) the wiki suggestion is a great one -- I can let you guys create the
FAQs.  For those who don't know wiki is a WWW page that can be modified
by anyone with a browser.  you can edit existing pages, add new ones,
etc. and it's simple.  You don't have to know html or anything other
than being able to type, although there are some simple formatting
commands you can use.

I'll send an email to the DIY list shortly with a small jpg attachment
to see exactly what happens to it.

--steve

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From BowTieVette at aol.com  Wed Feb  8 18:29:55 2006
From: BowTieVette at aol.com (BowTieVette at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:29:55 EST
Subject: [Efi332] Does anyone have the PCB layout files for the 4 layer
	board?
Message-ID: <a1.6ff69d16.311be703@aol.com>

 
Yakir,
I don't recall the gerbers for the 4 layer board having been released,  
perhaps Bruce will comment on that. In any event, that board will probably cost  a 
significant amount to produce so you may want to do some research before  
embarking on this design to see if all the components are still available. When  I 
last checked a couple of years ago, at least a couple of items were no longer 
 available. At that time there were workarounds but you may want to 
verify.Your  best bet if you want to use this design may be to find a complete board 
and or  PCB + complete parts kit.
And of course there are a whole range of other options...
jc
 
 
In a message dated 2/8/2006 10:36:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
yakir.green at intel.com writes:

Hello,  all! 
Am new here, and starting on my  EFI project. 
I am looking for the files that  describe the PCB, so I can create a board. 
If anyone has a board and/or part  kits, I will be happy to buy it (For a 
reasonable  price). 
PS: I prefer Forums to Mailing  list, mainly for new comers ? 
Yakir  Green 
Driver  team 
Intel  BWDi 
?  054-5551099
(  03- 9205772
7 03-9205840
* _yakir.green at intel.com_ (mailto:yakir.green at intel.com)   




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From yakir.green at intel.com  Thu Feb  9 06:32:18 2006
From: yakir.green at intel.com (Green, Yakir)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 14:32:18 +0200
Subject: [Efi332] Does anyone have the PCB layout files for the 4
	layerboard?
Message-ID: <875C321F70C64D43957EE7FB4C73CB8339A707@hasmsx413.ger.corp.intel.com>

JC, 10x for the reply!!

 

I was not aware of parts availability issues ... (DOUGH!!! I should have
thought of that)

Can you elaborate on the range of options out there?

 

10x,

 

Yakir

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From: efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org [mailto:efi332-bounces at diy-efi.org] On
Behalf Of BowTieVette at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:30 AM
To: efi332 at diy-efi.org
Subject: Re: [Efi332] Does anyone have the PCB layout files for the 4
layerboard?

 

Yakir,

I don't recall the gerbers for the 4 layer board having been released,
perhaps Bruce will comment on that. In any event, that board will
probably cost a significant amount to produce so you may want to do some
research before embarking on this design to see if all the components
are still available. When I last checked a couple of years ago, at least
a couple of items were no longer available. At that time there were
workarounds but you may want to verify.Your best bet if you want to use
this design may be to find a complete board and or PCB + complete parts
kit.

And of course there are a whole range of other options...

jc

 

 

In a message dated 2/8/2006 10:36:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
yakir.green at intel.com writes:

	Hello, all!

	 

	Am new here, and starting on my EFI project.

	I am looking for the files that describe the PCB, so I can
create a board.

	 

	If anyone has a board and/or part kits, I will be happy to buy
it (For a reasonable price).

	 

	PS: I prefer Forums to Mailing list, mainly for new comers ...

	          

	Yakir Green

	 

	Driver team

	Intel BWDi

	 

	* 054-5551099
	* 03- 9205772
	7 03-9205840
	* yakir.green at intel.com 

	 

 

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From vblimits at gmail.com  Thu Feb  9 11:45:40 2006
From: vblimits at gmail.com (Ian)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:45:40 -0800
Subject: [Efi332] Hello
Message-ID: <002901c62da0$a55e0f20$ba00a8c0@superspeedy>

I am a RC guy, and I am building my self a new engine for my Revo I am thinking of putting fuel injection on it, I would like to know if anyone on this list could help me design an small injector that can run at vary hi speeds like 15kHz (its a 4 stroke so its red line is low) the engine is a modded FS52 with a FS40C Cam and Valve springs, thanks for the help

-Ian
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From BowTieVette at aol.com  Thu Feb  9 19:20:49 2006
From: BowTieVette at aol.com (BowTieVette at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 20:20:49 EST
Subject: [Efi332] Does anyone have the PCB layout files for the 4
	layerboard?
Message-ID: <207.1231bb9c.311d4471@aol.com>

 
Yakir,
IMO, there are basically three approaches to diy fuel injection  systems.
1. You can hack into someone elses (OEM) design and tailor it for your use.  
With enough effort,you can have a nice running system. In this approach you 
will  be forever handicapped by the choices the designers made and by the 
reality that  you will never know all the details
of how it works from either the hardware  or software perspective. For many 
folks this is perfect. diy-efi, and gmecm are  full of success stories using 
this approach.
2. For folks who want more pain  there is the true diy from scratch route. 
Within this sphere
there are a  whole range of options from designing your own system from 
scratch to  buying
someone elses design, and assembling and integrating it yourself. In  this 
category are Megasquirt (www.msefi.com), VEMS 
(_http://shop.x-dsl.hu/catalog/index.php_ (http://shop.x-dsl.hu/catalog/index.php) ),  efi332, and
countless other homebrew systems that I am not  aware of. Some internet 
searching will turn
them up. Megasquirt has a  huge following and is a fine lower end system that 
offers
open source  hardware and software.
3. Purchase an aftermarket system complete. Tons of  options here, and I'm 
sure you know
all the names and how much these  run.
HTH
jc
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/9/2006 7:33:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
yakir.green at intel.com writes:

JC, 10x for the  reply!! 
I was not aware of  parts availability issues ? (DOUGH!!! I should have 
thought of  that) 
Can you elaborate on  the range of options out there? 
10x, 
 
Yakir



 
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From bouban6 at yahoo.fr  Mon Feb 13 04:45:18 2006
From: bouban6 at yahoo.fr (lounis bourkache)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:45:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Efi332] selling 
Message-ID: <20060213104518.30903.qmail@web26505.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

hello the efi team 
  dear sire 
  i'am  too happy to receeive your e-mail .as you know , i am too interesting in the 
  microprocessor studies especially the z80 simulation algorithms
  so if it's possibll to send me the different details to me in thiis brunch way 
   
   

		
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From urq at pacbell.net  Tue Feb 14 01:53:51 2006
From: urq at pacbell.net (urq)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:53:51 -0800
Subject: [Efi332] Re: [Diy_efi] comments on reorganizing lists
References: <DBB2E4C4173F1749B6C7434140611783C948F4@NASDAQ.usa.Arm.com>
Message-ID: <002801c6313b$cc8d1f70$6400a8c0@fasthp>

... I haven't had much chance to be active here lately ... but I'm still 
interested in someday putting together an ION-based fuel/ignition system for 
my old Audis ...

... here's my tuppence on the migration ...

I have never found a forum-based group I cared for.  I just don't have the 
time (or inclination) to deliberately go to particular sites to see what is 
going on.  I suppose you can always get "caught up" when you go there, but 
for me, I'd say it would more than likely move me farther away from the DIY 
EFI group ... furthermore, it seems that there's a lot more folks who seem 
to be "chatting" on firums ... I'm interested in groups that are active and 
are interested in doing things ...

The one forum I do make an attempt to track is the "DOG" forum ... it does 
seem to be a good, strong core group and doesn't seem to digress from the 
topic at hand (in that case obtaining and maintaining older VWs and Audis) 
...

Thanks for looking for input from the members!

Steve B
San Jose, CA (USA)

----- Original Message ----- 

I've thought about moving the lists to the forum style format that most
other internet groups use -- corral.net, thirdgen, etc.  I've been
opposed to this for some time, liking the email format these lists have
always used.  So I've put together a list of what I think the pros and
cons of each are and I'd like to solicit some discussion and opinions on
whether a switch would be good or bad.




From vblimits at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 16:45:29 2006
From: vblimits at gmail.com (Ian)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:45:29 -0800
Subject: [Efi332] Hello
Message-ID: <001601c631b8$5b9765f0$ba00a8c0@superspeedy>

does anyone on here know how to design/build, fuel injectors (vary small ones)
if so i would love some help, i am also looking to build a EFI system for a small nitro Engine .52CI that runs up to about 28kRPM (no typeo [28,000]) and would love some help thanks

-Ian
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