The "hot ticket" for '89 '165 chips is supposed to be the ARAP. >From one of Bruce's prior posts: arap 4194 5.7 Auto 89 Vet Anybody have an ARAP binary they could mail to me and/or upload to /incoming? Thanks! --andrew -- Andrew Gunnesch sgi, onsite at Ford Motor Company Voice: 248-848-4517 FAX: 313-441-6341 V-net: 327-4517