Aargh. (was Re: Now what?)

[Mark Romans]

Hi Bruce;  That's at least a half hour from me and an hour for Terry (From
home, work- half hour)
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Plecan <nacelp at bright.net>
To: gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu <gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Aargh. (was Re: Now what?)


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>| That's near me. Hokey smokes, Rocky!
>| Is that Sacramento?
>
>No, No, No, it's Elk Grove <g>
>Lost in space, Grumpy
>
>| -----Original Message-----
>| From: Bruce Plecan <nacelp at bright.net>
>| To: gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu <gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu>
>| Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:59 PM
>| Subject: Re: Aargh. (was Re: Now what?)
>|
>|
>| >GMP Parts Co
>| >John Flagg
>| >(916)  685-1055
>| >
>| >Headers, connector, terminals.
>| >Bashful
>| >
>| >
>| >| Anybody know where we can get PCM connectors or harness so that I
don't
>| >have
>| >| to splice into the existing wires?
>| >|
>| >| Ara
>| >|
>| >| ----- Original Message -----
>| >| From: TK <terryk at foothill.net>
>| >| To: <gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu>
>| >| Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 6:01 PM
>| >| Subject: Re: Aargh. (was Re: Now what?)
>| >|
>| >|
>| >| > Well said Mike,
>| >| >
>| >| > I am more than happy to spill my guts. I also have to wander through
>| >other
>| >| > people's guts too.
>| >| >
>| >| > I think it's the "send me all of your work" that bugs some of us.
>| >| >
>| >| > Terry Kelley
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| > -----Original Message-----
>| >| > From: Shannen Durphey <shannen at grolen.com>
>| >| > To: gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu
<gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu>
>| >| > Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 9:54 AM
>| >| > Subject: Aargh. (was Re: Now what?)
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| > >Mike Pitts wrote:
>| >| > >
>| >| > >> You should read any Motorola MCU manual you can get your hands
>| >| > >> on.  The HC11 is my favorite.
>| >| > >>
>| >| > >> -Mike
>| >| > >
>| >| > >Read Motorola manual.... I've tried many times to do that.  Puts me
>to
>| >| > >sleep faster than a bad movie.  Can read, and only guess.  Where to
>go
>| >| > >to "do" after the "read" ?
>| >| > >I'll explain this differently.  Let's say I've got a book that
>| >| > >provides technical details about pistons.  Trying to understand
>engine
>| >| > >operation from that book would be, at best, a chore.  So I run out
>and
>| >| > >buy something like Vizard's books, that talk about different types
>of
>| >| > >pistons, and rod ratios, and crankshaft materials, and ring types.
>| >| > >I've got some pretty hefty notions, but still no idea of what to do
>to
>| >| > >overhaul my stocker, or even how to tell what's worn when I
>| >| > >dissasemble it.  But I see pictures of torque wrenches, and
>| >| > >micrometers, and other tools in the book.  Thinking I'm going to
>need
>| >| > >them, I run out and buy bunches of tools, maybe end up with an
>| >| > >inch-pound torque wrench, or a set of inside mics that only go to
>2",
>| >| > >not really knowing what's going to work.  I still have made no
>| >| > >progress on getting the engine work done, but I've sure started a
>| >| > >collection of stuff.
>| >| > >I had to give myself a pat on the back the other day.  Someone
asked
>| >| > >about using multiple proms, and I accurately predicted the answer
>| >| > >would involve the "chip enable".  I've seen that a few times.
After
>| >| > >that, I was lost.  Like many other times, I saved the posted answer
>| >| > >for a later day.
>| >| > >
>| >| > >Someone, please, volunteer some clues for the guys that are
doggedly
>| >| > >hanging in, watching for useful stuff.  Books, beginner's lists,
>| >| > >something.  I'm going to end up so durn frustrated that I go back
to
>| >| > >school for 4 more years, just to learn to understand a small aspect
>of
>| >| > >what's inside a .5625 square inch piece of silicon.
>| >| > >I've helped some guys on the list with some mechanical stuff that's
>| >| > >pretty basic.  It's not a problem for me.  I know that everyone has
>to
>| >| > >start somewhere.  Many mechanics feel that they've worked hard to
>| >| > >learn the tricks and tips they use, and they're not going to give
>them
>| >| > >out to anyone.  I see no reason to make everyone re-invent the
>wheel.
>| >| > >I've chosen to learn much of what I know, and don't mind sharing,
>| >| > >especially with someone who wants to learn.  It's not going to cut
>my
>| >| > >throat to help a list member understand how to diagnose their own
>| >| > >driveability problems, or to tell the difference between an exhaust
>| >| > >rattle and a gear noise.
>| >| > >
>| >| > >Some guys seem to treat this programming info like it's reserved
for
>a
>| >| > >chosen few.  Generally, the people on this list are willing to
help,
>I
>| >| > >think they just forget where some of us stand in the puddle of
>| >| > >knowledge.
>| >| > >Shannen
>| >| > >*doing the clue mating dance*
>| >| > >
>| >| > >
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