Lesson 0 (was Re: Aargh. (was Re: Now what?))

[Todd....!!]

A quick FYI, if ya didn't already distinguish it or hear it from
another...

There are four things that we KNOW/DON'T KNOW....:

There are:
- Things we KNOW that we KNOW...(KK)  - (Like fuel injection for some of
you's)
- Things that we KNOW that we DON'T KNOW...(K-DK) - (Like feul injection
for som eof the others)
- Things that we DON'T KNOW that we KNOW...(DK-K) - (Like aaa..aa..a..I
don't know...if I knew, then I wouldn't NOT KNOW it, haha)
- And things that we DON'T KNOW that we DON'T KNOW!(DK-DK) - Like Where
the end of the universe begins/ends...etc...

Learned this in a forum (a physical forum not an E-forum or the like)
called Landmark Education Corp...  Pretty cool paradign if ya ask me...

LATER!

Todd....!!





Shannen Durphey wrote:
> 
> Marc Randolph wrote:
> >
> > Howdy Shannen,
> >
> 
> >
> > If you learn the same way as me, it is by doing, not reading.  I can
> > read and read and it just won't sink in.  But give me a few problems
> > and examples to get me primed, and then the book becomes something
> > useful and I can learn and experiment on my own from there.
> Exactly.  I learned more about the DEC system we used in college after
> the "access denied" message appeared than I ever would have had things
> worked like I expected.  Given a problem, there was meaning to the
> information.
> >
> > So, what exactly do you want to learn?
> 
> Good question.  I don't know how much I don't know.  I'm thinking that
> I have different aspects of this to overcome.
> 
> 1) How to use the binary files from the burner in a disassembler  I
> haven't found anything that likes them the way they are.
> 
> 2) how to learn the instructions, not just memorize them.  Should I be
> trying to reprogram the embedded controllers in the coin operated
> washers downstairs?
> 
> 3) How to find tools that will be of use now, and later.  Investing in
> them isn't a problem, but I'd hate to buy more than what's needed, or
> have to buy more later.
> 
> > and hundreds of different programs out there, which makes it difficult
> > to talk about specifics because when I say L0100, it is actually L0106
> > for someone else.
> Well, I haven't come to that bridge yet.
> 
> >  It has
> > been mentioned on the list before, but you'll need a disassembled
> > version of the code from some car also.
> 
> Maybe this is what's slowing me down.  You are using a borrowed
> disassembly?  I've been trying to find and understand the
> disassembler, so as to use a prom/ecm I already have, as well as learn
> the assy.
> 
>  What we need is a table listing and a disassembled
> > program listing so that everyone can work from the same page.  Maybe
> > ANHT since it is already out there thanks to ECMGUY?  Since it already
> > has quite a few comments, it might be a good place to start - we can
> > double check everything.  Or is there some other PROM that we should
> > look at instead?
> Fine for me, but it won't be long before I'm itching to try something
> with what we're learning.  And if I can't, well, it will be
> frustrating.
> >
> >    Marc (wondering about that "puddle of knowledge" we're standing in)
> 
> Depends....
> Shannen