165 to late MAF

[Mike Rolica]

Simple simple simple!!!!!!! Change a couble of bits, do some re pinning,
get 730- ecm and v8 application In yours 305) type prom!
Did not have to add any wires on mine! Used ones off MAF sensor.  Eliminates
then damn anoying relays too.( can put coolant over flow jug back on fender
well and now it is tie straped to 4x4 axle locking actuator :-).  I'll get
you the connectors, get your prom setup with what you want on off ect (no
fueling changes or timing)  even an ecm and ship iut to ya with
instructions!

Mike Rolica
Meridian Magnesium Products
Strathroy, Ont 
Ext. 260


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	gabe [SMTP:gellett at earthlink.net]
	Sent:	Monday, November 29, 1999 1:05 PM
	To:	gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu
	Subject:	Re: 165 to late MAF

	I would, but aren't the ECM connectors as well as the VSS different?
I would
	like to do away with the MAF for many reasons, as well as I plan in
the future
	to replace the 5.0 with a 400SB and will need all the airflow I can
get.

	The '165 is a really easy swap, only re-pin about 10 wires.  Please
correct me
	if I am wrong, the '730 would be a lot more work wouldn't it???

	Thanks

	Gabe



	Bruce Plecan wrote:

	> ----- Original Message -----
	> From: gabe <gellett at earthlink.net>
	> Subject: Re: 165 to late MAF
	>
	> For the work your going to do, why not just set up to a 1227730,
and have a
	> much newer system??.  I'd really recommend that.  In the future
the MAP
	> sensors are cheaper, and you can find them in the junkyards.
	> Grumpy
	>
	> | On an '870 ECU for an '85 5.0 TPI, does the piggyback module for
the MAF
	> do
	> | anything (other than burnoff) that I cannot do with relays
myself (power
	> on and
	> | off the MAF).
	> |
	> | I guess what I am trying to ask is:  What, exactly, are the
piggyback
	> module's
	> | functions?
	> |
	> | I am currently powering the MAF with a Bosch SPDT relay and
sending the
	> MAF
	> | signal straight into the ECM, is there anything wrong with doing
it this
	> way,
	> | other than I lose the automatic burnoff function?  I do not have
the
	> piggyback
	> | module and cannot convert to my '165 ECU due to not having the
correct
	> Memcal
	> | located yet.
	> |
	> | Gabe
	> |
	> | Mike Rolica wrote:
	> |
	> | > Only for the early 85-86 models.  Then they went to voltage on
87-1990.
	> Had
	> | > lots of trouble with the early freq mafs.  That is why BUA has
a bit for
	> | > freq or analog.
	> | > Mike Rolica
	> | > Meridian Magnesium Products
	> | > Strathroy, Ont
	> | > Ext. 260
	> | >
	> | >         -----Original Message-----
	> | >         From:   Bruce Plecan [SMTP:nacelp at bright.net]
	> | >         Sent:   Saturday, November 27, 1999 8:35 PM
	> | >         To:     gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu
	> | >         Subject:        Re: 165 to late MAF
	> | >
	> | >         Going by what I read in the ecmguy's HAC the 165 MAF
is
	> Frequency.
	> | >         Starting at 069A (ref BUA), we have the Ld var for
scaling LV8
	> Scale
	> | >         Factors,
	> | >         and just before that we have MAF frquency 34-150 Hz,
sounds like
	> | > frquency to
	> | >         me.
	> | >         Grumpy
	> | >
	> | >         | Waaait a min, how are you getting around that the
new GM MAF
	> is
	> | > frequency,
	> | >         | and the old is voltage? Build a translator box for
freq to
	> volt?
	> | >         | At least with the Porsche 928 MAF it wouldn't need
any
	> | > translation...
	> | >         | Maybe one of the code wizards can rewrite the code
so it can
	> use a
	> | > freq
	> | >         MAF?
	> | >         | I'm awaiting this as I want to start modifing my 89
and one of
	> the
	> | > first
	> | >         | things that I want to upgrade is the entire air
inlet tract
	> | > (Firebird).
	> | >         | Tom
	> | >         |
	> |