BPW numbers

Thu Feb 24 23:47:42 GMT 2000

I've tried FTP'ing before and can't seem to make 'er work. The customer phoned back and said it's a little fat at the bottom end still, so I'm going to pull some more fuel out at the lower RPM's. I'll send you the file when I've got it perfected...I only was given time to do a reburn 3 times (within an hour) !!

Lyndon.
-----Original Message-----
    From: Dave Zug. <dzug at delanet.com>
    To: gmecm at diy-efi.org <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
    Date: February 24, 2000 10:36 AM
    Subject: Re: BPW numbers

    Customer?!  I thought I was contributing to a hobbyist! ;-}  well the "professional" advice would have been much more conservative. (i'm no pro). didn't know I was messin with 3rd party money and someones livelyhood. glad it worked out. FTP the final prom to GM_ECM FTP now for the collection!   "cammed 350 TBI w/ 305 injectors"   ;-}} 

    it's your work, no one really expects you to upload it...just being funny a little. ;-P
    ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Programmer 
        To: gmecm at diy-efi.org 
        Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 9:42 PM
        Subject: Re: BPW numbers

        Thought I'd keep ya'll up to speed. I added 12 points to the fuel map from 50kpa through 100 and from 1200 RPM +. This brought the BL #'s right in the green at 128-129. I also added 4-8 degrees of spark at varying areas...now this little rig really honks !! The customer is all grins.
        Lyndon
        -----Original Message-----
            From: Programmer <nwester at eidnet.org>
            To: gmecm at diy-efi.org <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
            Date: February 23, 2000 8:06 AM
            Subject: Re: BPW numbers

            Thanks for the info Dave,
            This thing (now that I've got some other numbers)--runs at 154 BL at cruise. Idle is at 132 (close enough) ---so I'm assuming WOT is going to be pretty lean. 
            Here's some more specs...Cam duration 283 INT and 286 EXH, Intake lift is .435 
            and exhaust is .455. Compression ratio is 9.4 to 1 and the heads have been ported to match Vortec specs (this truck is a 1988). 3.42 ratio diff is what we're working with--and actually the truck peels around pretty good the way it is...we're just a little concerned about the lean ratio at cruise and WOT. I'll try adding 15% across the upper end of the fuel map to start with... 

            Lyndon.
            -----Original Message-----
                From: Dave Zug <dzug at delanet.com>
                To: gmecm at diy-efi.org <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
                Date: February 22, 2000 9:35 PM
                Subject: Re: BPW numbers

                On a MAF system, if you UP the fuel pressure 7 - 10 %, and set the flow rate to a value 7 - 10% higher, the 305 injectors will have the best chance on a un-hotrodded 350 motor IMO.  you can add 20% more FP and mess up idle and cause BLM skewing, and the WOT will have more fuel, or you can leave the FP alone and idle will be great but WOT may have the injectors static and still have low o2 readings.  Either is a comprimise.  305 to 350 = bit more than 14% more air, need 14% more fuel and thats with no other intake mods. If you were using 12ms at WOT on the 305 you'll use the same injectors 14% longer in the 350 - closer to static (or over)

                dont just change the BPW by 14%, (in a MAF) you'll do the opposite of what you are after. the injector base PW should be the actual setting for the injectors used - then you adjust it a bit for more FP.. which makes the injectors have a higher flow rate than they are "stamped". a better spray pattern too.  On a TPI (not TBI) each of the 8 are rated at 19#/hr for a 305 and 22#/hr for a 350. 19 * 1.14 = 21.66 amazingly... keeps the injectors below something like 80% of max duty cycle.

                and you're "off road" so no problem with the feds.

                Please anyone correct anything. I'm not a pro, I just play one on TV.

                PS - my soon to be dropped-in 383 will start out with 350 injectors. (MAF too). 
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                    From: Programmer 
                    To: gmecm at diy-efi.org 
                    Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:46 PM
                    Subject: BPW numbers

                    Greetings guys,

                    Just wondering what BPW numbers would do when a guy changes a 305 to a 350. The 1988 TBI injectors are different, PROM BPW numbers are 148 for a 305 and 135 for a 350. This is based on flow in grams/sec...what would you have to set a 305 injector to, to work in a 350 properly -- or is the flow rate too low already ?

                    Lyndon.
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