Oz DIY-WB board SILLYNESS

[Bruce]

Get good and PO'd at Peter, he's the one that's generated the problem.
Cost +20, is no longer in the spirit of the project.
Guess you just like rationalizing things to suit your own ways, eh?.
You don't have to buy a board, you can wire wrap it, and that takes the PCB
out of the equation.
Letters like this sure have taken the fun of trying to do a good thing.
Yep sure is silly.
I'm begining to really doubt we'll get any volunteers to generate any future
projects for the list, after the behaviour of so many takers, and amazingly
even a few of the givers, stunning, absolutely stunning.
Grumpy


From: "Daniel" <bossute at iprimus.com.au>
Subject: Re: Oz DIY-WB board SILLYNESS
> You guys are unbelievable , someone has offered to be able to procure the
> kit so we here downunder can DIY the WB ourselves. He is not asking to
make
> a profit on the deal but estimated what shipping duty etc is going to
cost.
> Some of these bits are unobtainable to a lot of the Aussie guys as we
don't
> have a zillion digikey stores in our backyard.Talk to a YANK supplier and
> ask them to send a small parcel off parts overseas and they just laugh at
> us.
> Since the company who made the boards made a profit I assume these boards
> cant be called DIY anymore.
> PETER HAS NOT OFFERED TO BUILD THE KITS OR SUPPLY A FULLY ASSEMBLED KIT.
> Does this mean that in the true spirit of DIY WB everyone should make
there
> own board right from the pcb manufacturing stage to final assembly.
> A REALLY PISSED OFF
> Daniel Collins
> Glad I live downunder !

> From: "rr" <RRauscher at nni.com>
> To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> Cc: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Oz DIY-WB board & sensor group purchase
>
>
> > Wow, the rules have changed. I can handle this. Since I now have a bunch
> > of boards the cost will be at cost + $20US. Now this is hardly anything
> > considering the amount of time & effort that we put into designing,
> testing,
> > changing, retesting, prototyping, doing a schematic capture, layout,
> dealing
> > with the board house, setting up a web site for orders, shipping.
> >
> > I'm sure everyone will understand.
> >
> > BobR.
> >
> > P.S. This is a test, a test of peoples integrity. We now return you to
> > your regularly scheduled program.
> >
> > Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Bob:
> > > I'd like to buy the boards Peter ordered.
> > >
> > > I'd also like to suggest also canceling the whole PCB group buy.
> > >
> > > Now, I am Grumpy
> > > Grumpy
> > >
> > > PS. Reply to EFIWhiners.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Gargano" <peter at techedge.com.au>
> > > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 9:04 PM
> > > Subject: Oz DIY-WB board & sensor group purchase
> > >
> > > > Most of this is relevant only to potential Australian
> > > > purchasers of the DIY-WB PCB & sensor.
> > > >
> > > > PCB
> > > > ---
> > > > People keeping up with the list would have heard that the
> > > > Australian group purchase closed a while ago. We couldn't
> > > > produce a local PCB at as low a cost as the US group buy, so
> > > > I've decided to get the boards as part of the US group buy too.
> > > > I also decided to order a few extra boards on the basis that
> > > > more people would want PCBs after the Oz group buy closed.
> > > >
> > > > Board may even be as low as AU$10 (1 off) shipped to your door.
> > > > But these excess PCBs will be sold strictly on a first come first
> > > > serve basis.
> > > >
> > > > PARTS KIT
> > > > ---------
> > > > I've decide to go out on a limb and offer a DIY-WB kit of parts to
> > > > all local PCB purchasers. It will be at cost + AU$20. It's still
DIY,
> > > > all I'm offering is a means to save people the time they would
> > > > otherwise each individually spend sourcing these parts from a few
> > > > different places. I'm certainly not doing this as a money making
> > > > proposition as my time is more valuable than the hourly rate I'd
> > > > be notionally making, but I'm doing it to make the point that DIY
> > > > does not have to mean people are not recompensed for extra work
> > > > they offer. I can expand on my expressed attitude if anyone is not
> > > > happy with this brief explanation.
> > > >
> > > > Sensor connector may be a problem unless there are a lot of junkyard
> > > > Hondas MY 93-96 with the same headlight harness connector as the US
> > > > models (thanks for the info Mark Riley).
> > > >
> > > > SENSOR
> > > > ------
> > > > As PCBs have not shipped yet, I have not actually finalised the
> > > > Honda/NTK sensor group purchase (which is currently at qty. 15).
> > > > All PCB purchasers have been given the opportunity to beat The
> > > > Parts Bin price of US$117.78 + freight - if we can do better, then
> > > > I'll go with that, but that looks like the best deal. I've also
> > > > reminded people that freight will be added and GST may be a factor
> > > > too. US$117.78 is about AU$225. Landed price will some tens of AU$s
> > > > higher.
> > > >
> > > > ORDERS
> > > > ------
> > > > Bottom line is, if you want a DIY-WB PCB, a parts kit, or a sensor
> > > > then your time is limited.
> > > >
> > > > Peter.
> > >
>
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