Oz DIY-WB board SILLYNESS

[Bruce]

Give you a break, what the heck do you want?.
Did you read the users agreement?
It's just that darn simple.
Richard that is such a cheap shot, I can't believe you.
Everyday, just sets a new low, as far as what gets expressed here.

It has nothing to do with being down under, so just drop that, utter
nonsense.

Why don't you volunteer to follow the spirit of the project and give a
little time and energy toward getting *out there*.  Just as a freebe, you
know just be a good guy, ignore the money, and just do it to be a nice guy.
Just in a little tiny way try and make the world a little better place.
Instead of writting letters gripping about it.
Bruce







----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Wakeling" <kojab at optushome.com.au>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: Oz DIY-WB board SILLYNESS


> I also support Peter G and agree with Daniel and Matt.
> How about changing your medication Bruce and give us guys downunder a
break.
>
> Cheers Richard
>
> Matt Tomlins wrote:
>
> > Well said Daniel.
> > Peter has put a lot of effort into making an Australian group buy
happen,
> > and we must
> > remember that we are talking 20 small AUSTRALIAN dollars  (Currently
about
> > $0.18 USD  :>P  ), to
> > save the Australian guys a lot of grief trying to source components that
> > otherwise may be unobtainable.
> > Give the guy a break.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Matt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel" <bossute at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: Oz DIY-WB board SILLYNESS
> >
> > > You guys are unbelievable , someone has offered to be able to procure
the
> > > kit so we here downunder can DIY the WB ourselves. He is not asking to
> > make
> > > a profit on the deal but estimated what shipping duty etc is going to
> > cost.
> > > Some of these bits are unobtainable to a lot of the Aussie guys as we
> > don't
> > > have a zillion digikey stores in our backyard.Talk to a YANK supplier
and
> > > ask them to send a small parcel off parts overseas and they just laugh
at
> > > us.
> > >
> > > Since the company who made the boards made a profit I assume these
boards
> > > cant be called DIY anymore.
> > >
> > > PETER HAS NOT OFFERED TO BUILD THE KITS OR SUPPLY A FULLY ASSEMBLED
KIT.
> > >
> > > Does this mean that in the true spirit of DIY WB everyone should make
> > there
> > > own board right from the pcb manufacturing stage to final assembly.
> > >
> > > A REALLY PISSED OFF
> > > Daniel Collins
> > > Glad I live downunder !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "rr" <RRauscher at nni.com>
> > > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > > Cc: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Oz DIY-WB board & sensor group purchase
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wow, the rules have changed. I can handle this. Since I now have a
bunch
> > > > of boards the cost will be at cost + $20US. Now this is hardly
anything
> > > > considering the amount of time & effort that we put into designing,
> > > testing,
> > > > changing, retesting, prototyping, doing a schematic capture, layout,
> > > dealing
> > > > with the board house, setting up a web site for orders, shipping.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure everyone will understand.
> > > >
> > > > BobR.
> > > >
> > > > P.S. This is a test, a test of peoples integrity. We now return you
to
> > > > your regularly scheduled program.
> > > >
> > > > Bruce wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Bob:
> > > > > I'd like to buy the boards Peter ordered.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd also like to suggest also canceling the whole PCB group buy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I am Grumpy
> > > > > Grumpy
> > > > >
> > > > > PS. Reply to EFIWhiners.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Peter Gargano" <peter at techedge.com.au>
> > > > > To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 9:04 PM
> > > > > Subject: Oz DIY-WB board & sensor group purchase
> > > > >
> > > > > > Most of this is relevant only to potential Australian
> > > > > > purchasers of the DIY-WB PCB & sensor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PCB
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > People keeping up with the list would have heard that the
> > > > > > Australian group purchase closed a while ago. We couldn't
> > > > > > produce a local PCB at as low a cost as the US group buy, so
> > > > > > I've decided to get the boards as part of the US group buy too.
> > > > > > I also decided to order a few extra boards on the basis that
> > > > > > more people would want PCBs after the Oz group buy closed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Board may even be as low as AU$10 (1 off) shipped to your door.
> > > > > > But these excess PCBs will be sold strictly on a first come
first
> > > > > > serve basis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PARTS KIT
> > > > > > ---------
> > > > > > I've decide to go out on a limb and offer a DIY-WB kit of parts
to
> > > > > > all local PCB purchasers. It will be at cost + AU$20. It's still
> > DIY,
> > > > > > all I'm offering is a means to save people the time they would
> > > > > > otherwise each individually spend sourcing these parts from a
few
> > > > > > different places. I'm certainly not doing this as a money making
> > > > > > proposition as my time is more valuable than the hourly rate I'd
> > > > > > be notionally making, but I'm doing it to make the point that
DIY
> > > > > > does not have to mean people are not recompensed for extra work
> > > > > > they offer. I can expand on my expressed attitude if anyone is
not
> > > > > > happy with this brief explanation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sensor connector may be a problem unless there are a lot of
junkyard
> > > > > > Hondas MY 93-96 with the same headlight harness connector as the
US
> > > > > > models (thanks for the info Mark Riley).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SENSOR
> > > > > > ------
> > > > > > As PCBs have not shipped yet, I have not actually finalised the
> > > > > > Honda/NTK sensor group purchase (which is currently at qty. 15).
> > > > > > All PCB purchasers have been given the opportunity to beat The
> > > > > > Parts Bin price of US$117.78 + freight - if we can do better,
then
> > > > > > I'll go with that, but that looks like the best deal. I've also
> > > > > > reminded people that freight will be added and GST may be a
factor
> > > > > > too. US$117.78 is about AU$225. Landed price will some tens of
AU$s
> > > > > > higher.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ORDERS
> > > > > > ------
> > > > > > Bottom line is, if you want a DIY-WB PCB, a parts kit, or a
sensor
> > > > > > then your time is limited.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter.
> > > > >
> > >
> >
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