[Gmecm] Re: Fuel Economy

Mark Romans romans
Thu Sep 22 03:56:58 UTC 2005


It must be a typo.  The only way it would work with a NB is 0-1 volts.
Mark
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrell" <ndarrell at telusplanet.net>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Gmecm] Re: Fuel Economy


> Mark:
>
> I took a look at their website, looks interesting and relatively
> cheep.  One thing i noticed, though, is that their nb output voltage
> didn't look compatible with a standard O2, and it was 0-5 instead of
> 0-1v.  What up with dat?
>
> On 20 Sep 2005 at 21:12, Mark Romans wrote:
>
>> Why re-create the wheel.
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4576708442&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
>>
>>
>> When it's already been done and works really well!
>>
>> It datalogs your wideband and simulates your narrow band to the ecm.
>>
>> http://www.zeitronix.com/
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Darrell" <ndarrell at telusplanet.net>
>> To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Gmecm] Re: Fuel Economy
>>
>>
>> > No, not necessarily.  I knew the signal range was different, adapting
>> > the output to a different range would be cake (i'm an electronics
>> > tech).  I shoulda been a bit clearer, but it seems you guys always
>> > take the worst possible interpretation. =D
>> > I like the idea someone else posted about adapting the signal to the
>> > nb, and getting wideband data at the same time...  with a little
>> > tweaker to run the crossover point up and down, you could pretty much
>> > set the "stoich" point wherever you want, no programming.  Might be
>> > worth a look.  Time to start lurking on the WBO2 list...
>> >
>> > On 17 Sep 2005 at 15:20, gary wrote:
>> >
>> >> I incorrectly interpreted your reply to mean by any way possible.
>> >> You obviously implied the use of a WB as a replacement without
>> >> any additional hardware/software to assist the PCM/ECM.
>> >>
>> >> GAS
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Mark Romans" <romans at starstream.net>
>> >> To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:09 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Gmecm] Re: Fuel Economy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Darrell:  I stick with my statement as to your specific question.
>> >> > Obviously if you add an interface box you can use a wb output into
>> >> > a narrow band input.  I have a Zeitronix Wide band and it allows me
>> >> > to input a SIMULATED narrow band signal into the stock ecm while
>> >> > using the WB to datalog actual afrs.
>> >> >
>> >> > SOME people don't realize that word semantics are critical when you
>> >> > are typing.  "Clarification" would have been a better word sincce I
>> >> > wasn't technically wrong in the first place.
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Mark Romans" <romans at starstream.net>
>> >> > To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:28 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Gmecm] Re: Fuel Economy
>> >> >
>> >> > > No No No!   You can't run a wide band in place of a narrow band.
>> >> > > The Wide band puts out a somewhat linear 0-5 v output.
>> >> > > The narrow band puts out a non-linear 0-1 v output.
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