[Gmecm] OT - alternative refrigerant test... HFC152A

David Allen davida1
Tue May 14 13:08:54 UTC 2013


Same here Gary. R134A works ok with proper oil. When it first came out it 
was cheap. It was a very acceptable R12 alternative.  Now, it's time to milk 
the people for more, so R134A has to go.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Evans" <gary at garyandliz.com>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Gmecm] OT - alternative refrigerant test... HFC152A


> Not easily done from a chemical standpoint I suppose. It's not for lack of 
> trying there is (or perhaps, was) billions of dollars to be made with an 
> easy replacement.
>
> I have had very good luck with drop-is R-134a replacement on mid 80's 
> Japanese vehicles. Dryer and oil change only - kept all the old hoses. It 
> typically goes about 5 years between needing top-offs.
>
> -Gary
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 12, 2013, at 11:42 PM, "HotRod" <HotRods442 at live.com> wrote:
>
>> I've often wondered why no one has come up with a viable replacement for
>> R-12. Yes, R-134a works but with major changes to the system, (new seals 
>> and
>> hoses)...Why no formulation to easily replace R-12 without having to 
>> rebuild
>> system?
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: mroof at nmt.edu
>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 12:30 AM
>> To: gmecm at diy-efi.org
>> Subject: Re: [Gmecm] OT - alternative refrigerant test... HFC152A
>>
>> Quite interesting.  I have had good results with quite a few of the
>> hydrocarbons for use a refrigerant and messing around with another
>> sounds like fun.  Have any good links of where one can purchase the
>> stuff online?  I live in the middle of nowhere.
>>
>>> Here's one for all my car friends. This is an alternative refrigerant 
>>> idea
>>> that I found on the net. Your milage may vary - but the video shows some
>>> very indisputable results. I did this conversion and made the video, by
>>> the
>>> way.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkBnhcyO3Y
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> David
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