ZEV's

[RABBITT_Andrew at mv8.orbeng.com.au]

>Let's just cut all the crap about a ZEV.

a good ZEV will do sub 0.2kWh/mile, whereas your average 30-35 mpUSg 
car is more like 1.0kWh/mile, therefore you have to have a few losses 
to stoop :) to the IC engine level.  This doesn's seem like crap to 
me!

>I am fairly certain that the peak hours for electric generation will 
>shift

And not before time, the energy consumption plots currently look like 
the Himalayas,  Leveling this out has to give significant emissions 
(CO2 and other) benefits by reducing shut-down and start-up losses.

>So the term "Zero Emissions Vehicle" is a LIE.  They ought
>to be called "Remote Emissions Vehicles" (REV) since they just shift 
>the emissions point to another location.

people generally don't congregate around a power station exhaust 
stack, but cars and people must co-habitate generally at close range, 
therefore zero tail-pipe emissions is beneficial from a public health 
point of view.

>government mandate is the absolute worst way to do anything.

just like democracy is the worst form of government....  :)


PS:  I don't think this is the right forum for this discussion, but 
now the imbalance has been redressed, we can all get back to burning 
fossil fuels (lots!!!).