EFI ECM or ??? problem
DAVE ZUG
dzug at ed.cecil.cc.md.us
Wed Jul 17 18:57:18 GMT 1996
Hi again folks, as a result of my post regardung GM ECM SCAN TOOL
WANTED, i have received alot of help from some friendly intellegent
people. i am continuing in my endeavors to understand/change the
eeprom on my GMP4 ecm in my Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo. Thank you for
having such a group(as he lookes up) :) i have created a homepage
dedicated to the car AND this ECM project
http://www.ssnet.com/~advpower/dzug/89gpturbo.html. I am the pupil here, so
questions i cant answer i will tell you i cant answer them, but take
a look periodically and suggest anything i can do to enhance the page
for people of YOUR calibur.I'm considering editing and listing
message exchanges i have gotten and leaving the names out unledd i
get permission. I considered using a reference to this
group, but i felt some would not appreciate the beginner mail (?).
anyhow, heres a problem i am having and its a side problem and i'll
take any suggestions at all (except' buy a porsche', havent got the
bucks but someday!)
> i replaced the ecm a month ago cause the car kept cutting off at low
> speed (3 mph) at 0% throttle, and wouldnt start on 2 occasions until
> i rapped on the ECM with a screwdriver handle. when it shut down,
> all the ecm controlled relays would cycle around the hood rapidly,
> click click click 10 times a second or so. well i replaced the ecm
> and it stopped happening but now i get what i think might be misfire
> at 80-90% throttle. the car jerks slightly and sometimes fights
> shifting into third(automatic) cause with the accellerator on the
> floor it still cant get to 5000 rpm, sits at 4700 and creeps up very
> slowly. Its not always that bad, mostly jitters i can feel and
> slight performance loss, enough to irritate me. well i took the NEW
> ecm out and put the old one in (when the car runs it used to run
> fine) to see if the new ecm was causing jitters. it did, which means
> its probably not the ecm. i should tell you that just before taking
> the old ecm out for the original replacement with the new one, the
> car was in "backup" or "limp home" mode and there was blue / black
> smoke coming out of the pipes for the 5 mile trip home. then with the
> new ecm, all returned to normal. i thought it was maybe buildup in
> the cyllinders or plugs but theres no residue on the plugs.i have a
> NEW MAP sensor and a NEW knock sensor, and 1 new coil module of 3 (2
> plugs per module) spark plugs are 10 month old splitfire and wires
> are new 8mm .The only things left in the system that i can think
> might be doing it is the other 2 coils or the module that the coils
> sit on. the car has 110k on it and i did not have this trouble
> before the ecm change. oh and the injectors have had fuel tank
> additive for 3 tanks now. and octane is always 92+, oil is 500 mi
> old.
>
> so mechanically, or otherwise, what would cause small pulsing jerks
> ad 80-90% throttle?
>
>
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