GM Tranny Bolt Patterns

Terryk terryk at foothill.net
Thu Dec 18 03:18:40 GMT 1997


Great info, now how about the manual FWD transmissions?

TK

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> From: Steve Ochs <Steve_Ochs at compuserve.com>
> To: INTERNET:diy_efi at esl.eng.ohio-state.edu
> Subject: GM Tranny Bolt Patterns
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 6:00 PM
> 
> Message text written by INTERNET:diy_efi at esl.eng.ohio-state.edu
> >Anybody know if the 3.8L Buick FWD engine and the 2.8L/3.1L/3.4L Chevy
FWD
> > share the same bellhousing pattern? I thought so originally until I
found
> > out that the Quad 4 and the 2.8L are different. So maybe the Buick is
> > different too.
> ><
> 
> Boy, gone from the digest for two days and I miss a lot!!!  I wish I
could
> have gotten into this discussion earlier. 
> 
> Here is the scoop:
> 
> Rear Wheel Drive -
> There are two bolt patterns made, Chevy and BOP (Buick-Olds-Pontiac)
> Some transmissions came in both, some in Chevy only.
> The 700-R4/4L60/4L60-E came in Chevy ONLY until 1995 when the split case
> became avaialble.  All BOP applications used the THM-200-R4, THM-200,
> THM-250, or THM-350 until those trannys were discontinued (last was
200-R4
> in 1990).  That is why 3800 was not available in Camaro/Firebird until
> 1995.  In order to be more flexible including outside customers, a
2-piece
> case was designed for the 4L60-E.  The transmission housing is the same
but
> the bellhousing can be replaced with different versions (like a manual
> tranny).
> All Chevy truck engines mated to the 700-R4/4L60/4L60-E (including 2.8L
> V-6, 4.3L V-6, & All V-8s) have the Chevy bolt pattern.  No adapters have
> ever been used with the 700-R4 tranny.
> 
> Front Wheel Drive -
> ALL transverse FWD Automatic trannys have the SAME bolt pattern EXCEPT
for
> the 4T80-E which is used exclusively on the Northstar V-8s.  There have
> only been THREE FWD transverse transmissions made for all applications
> other than Northstar
> 
> The first was the THM-125 which is now known as the 3T40 (3-speed
> auutomatic).  
> 
> The second which is basically a beefed up O.D. version of the 3T40 is the
> THM-440-T4which has evolved into the 4T60, the 4T60-E, and the 4T65-E.
> 
> The third is the newer 4T40-E which is a O.D. 3T40.
> 
> All of these models all have the same mounting bolt pattern.  I don't
have
> my manual near me but unless the engines were made with a different bolt
> pattern, the Getrag should have the same pattern.  It is possible the
> engines (such as the Quad 4) were made with a dual pattern, but the
> Automatic version of the Quad 4 is the same as the V6s.
> 
>     The following is a list of GM FWD transmissions
> and their applications:
> 
>     Model           Years       Current Application
> ---------------  ------------  ---------------------
> THM125-C (3T40)  1979-2002     J (possibly to 2002)
> 4T40-E           1995-future   J,N,P-90
> THM-440T4 (4T60) 1984-1990     None
> 4T60-E           1988-1999     W,U,H
> 4T65-E           1997-future   W,U,C,H,G
> 4T80-E           1992-2002     Northstar
> 
>      The following is a list of many of GM trannys over the years and
their
> torque capacities, etc.
> 
>                                 |--------Maximum-------|
>                                 Engine  Gearbox  Gross    Torque     
> Overall
>      Transmission       Weight  Torque  Torque  Veh. Wt. Conv. Dia.  
> Length
>         Model           (lbs.)  (lb/ft) (lb/ft)  (lbs)    (inches)   
> (inches)
>      Rear Wheel Drive:
>      TH-180C (3L30)     130/140   258     440     7716   9.6/10.24  
> 26.29/28.11
>      TH-200-4R          157       330     550     6000     11.73    
28.26
>      TH-400 (3L80)      190       440     885    12000     12.20    
> 29.30/34.48
>      TH-700-R4 (4L60)   167/184   350     650     8600   9.6/11.73  
> 29.77/30.64
>      4L30-E             168/177   258     440     7716   9.6/10.24  
> 28.54/31.57
>      4L60-E             160/176   350     612     8600   9.6/11.73  
> 29.77/30.64
>      4L80-E             260       440     885    15000     12.20    
> 31.93/33.02
> 
>      Front Wheel Drive:
>      TH-125C (3T40)     161       200     416     5100     9.64
>      TH-440-T4 (4T60)   195       235     369     5181     9.64
>      4T60-E             203       280     390     6400     9.64
>      4T65-E             214       285     400     6400   9.64/10.16
>      4T80-E             295       305     461     6800     10.43
> 
>      Here are some common tranmission gear ratios: 
> 
>      Transmission
>         Model           First   Second   Third   Fourth   Reverse
>      Rear Wheel Drive:
>      TH-180C (3L30)     2.400   1.479    1.000     ---     2.000
>      TH-200-4R          2.741   1.568    1.000    0.674    2.067
>      TH-350             2.52    1.52     1.00      ---
>      TH-400 (3L80)      2.482   1.482    1.000     ---     2.077
>      TH-700-R4 (4L60)   3.059   1.625    1.000    0.696    2.294
>      4L30-E             2.400   1.479    1.000    0.723    2.000
>      4L30-E Optional    2.860   1.620    1.000    0.723    2.000
>      4L60-E             3.059   1.625    1.000    0.696    2.294
>      4L80-E             2.482   1.482    1.000    0.750    2.077
> 
>      Front Wheel Drive:
>      TH-125C (3T40)     2.840   1.600    1.000     ---     2.067
>      TH-440-T4 (4T60)   2.921   1.568    1.000    0.705    2.385
>      4T60-E             2.921   1.568    1.000    0.705    2.385
>      4T65-E             2.921   1.568    1.000    0.705    2.385
>      4T80-E             2.960   1.626    1.000    0.681    2.130
> 
> Steve Ochs aka N8TYS- Mfg. Engineer - GM Powertrain - Parma Plant
> Transmission Division (4T60/65-E) - Steve_Ochs at compuserve.com
> The statements and opinions expressed here are NOT an official
> statement of General Motors or the GM Powertrain Division
> 
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