Methanol injectors..

George M. Dailey gmd at tecinfo.com
Tue Feb 18 00:28:04 GMT 1997


Tell us more about this propane injection. How many lbs/hour will a street
350 consume? I know this is a relative question. But, if I'll need to carry
200Lbs of the stuff to get a "rush", it wont be as good.
GMD

At 01:32 AM 2/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Have you considered liquid propane injection?  Think about
>it.  112 octane - significantly higher than methanol - won't detonate when
>injected into diesel engine inlets - readily available and very easy to
>work with.  Very good anti-backfire as a lean mixture tends not to ignite
>easily.  All air flow dynamics are for a dry gas as it boils at -44f.  What
>this means is the stuff can go into the inlet of your turbo and stay a
>consistent mixture even thru the bends of your aftercooler. Less latent
>heat of evaporation - more than made up by higher octane rating.  Look at
>the 3 or more stage NOS spray bars (NOS side) to get a clue on how to set
>it up.
>
>No pump needed - positive tank pressure at any temp above minus fortyfour
>(-44f) up.  Using a 4 2 1 flow relationship gives you seven steps of
>control.   Measure tank pressure and you can calculate
>flow thru fixed orifices and adjust mixture when on bottle accordingly.
>
>Then go wacko.  Add a regulator so you can get low pressure dry vapor.  Use
>a couple of cheap solenoid valves and different flow orifices.  A small
>amount of bleed propane at idle and above really cleans up the combustion
>and reduces the raw gasoline dilution of the engine oil significantly.  Mid
>range (pre boost) step of vapor can greatly reduce risk of mid range
>detonation.  If you want to run Bi-Fuel all the time, you can make the
>engine idle on propane and eliminate all cold engine gasoline starting
>enrichment as any thing over boiling and the fuel is 100 percent vapor. 
>All this and greatly improved engine life to boot.  
>
>If you do not want to run an after cooler, this should work very well
>as it not only cools, but radically raises the octane.
>
>You may also consider adding a small amount of water/methanol
>injection whenever your turbo go's positive pressure.  Consensus is this
>does cool the charge temp considerably, and improve the detonation
>characteristics when used in moderation.  Don't even go  there on other
>implications.
>
>If the first ingredient ain't Habanero, then the rest don't matter.
>Robert Harris <bob at bobthecomputerguy.com>
>
>
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>> From: Seth Allen <n9540517 at cc.wwu.edu>
>> To: Michael D. Porter <mdporter at Rt66.com>
>> Cc: diy_efi at coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu
>> Subject: Re: Methanol injectors..
>> Date: Sunday, February 16, 1997 11:51 AM
>> 
>> On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Michael D. Porter wrote:
>> > 
>> > Seth Allen wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > Hi there,
>> > > I am wondering if anyone out there has any experience with methanol
>> > > resistant efi injectors.
>> > 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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