A little consumer corner & back to work

dzorde dzorde at geocities.com
Mon Jan 20 13:50:34 GMT 1997


I spent a week manufacturing an ABS intake body for the front of a TPI
throttle body, like a nice smooth curved Y-shape to make use of two air
boxes.  Anyway once the engine got hot and the throttle body expanded it
split the ABS.  I guess what I'm trying to say is that everywhere the ABS
would bolt to the manifold and any other alloy/iron parts, it would crack
due to expansion differences between the ABS and what its bolted too.  And I
think it may be a problem to allowing for expansion gaps.  Now I am using a
180 thermostat so the engine is quite hot.  But I still think it would be a
problem.

Dan     dzorde at geocities.com

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>Greetings all:
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>     Wow, there is a lot of emotion out there re: E-motive.  Fred said
>it best the difference between a good vendor and  a bad one is, what
>they do when things go wrong.  
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>     What everyone should know is that in (ALOMST) every state there
>are a set of consumer protection laws commonly known as the U.C.C.
>(Uniform Commericial Code).  The significance is that these laws give
>consumers rights simply because they bought a product in the state. 
>(does not apply to commericial use)
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>     Most bad vendors, attempt to sell the consumer on the idea that
>the only rights they have are those in the Expressed Warranty usually
>enclosed with the product.  The UCC gives Implied Warranties.  This
>means that under certain conditions the consumer is entitled to get
>back their money and incidential and consequential costs too.
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>     The most commonly used are the Implies Warranty of Merchantability
>and Implied Warranty of Fitness for a Particular Purpose.  
>Merchantability, means that the "product"  will be useful for its
>normal use.  (Pumps should pump, and lights should light.)  Fitness for
>a Particular Purpose, only applies to situations where the consumer,
>who is not an expert, relies on the vendor, who is supposed to know
>what he/she is doing to sell the consumer the right, size, type,  etc..
>of what ever is in question.
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>     Some states allow the MFG. to cut short these Implied Warranties
>and others  like MS do not.   This little information may be useful in
>cases where a vendor is resistant to helping you. 
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>Enough on consumer corner:
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>     I have something to add to the EFI world and I would like to share
>it for what it is worth.   I do not have the time or access to
>equipment to make use of the idea but someone out there may.  
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>     What if someone made a TPI out of an ABS injection plastic mold? 
>The Tubes could be severed and the ID enlarged slightly to allow for
>different size sleeves.  Thus, the end user could adjust the volume and
>length of the tubes.  ABS is cheaper, and the interior smooth.  It can
>be molded for Max. flow with out concearn for the union of tube to
>plenum B/C the molding would be all in one.  The plenum would not have
>to be square, it could be designed like a header collector only in
>reverse.
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>     Sure there are R&D buggs to work out, but with a 160 degree engine
>thermostat why the heck not use it?  
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>Thanks for all the input.
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>Ray.
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