..... >all that clutter . I guess I better sign up to the EEC-IV list too - can >someone post how I go about doing that. Also, if you have done this check: http://eelink.umich.edu:80/~p-nowak/eec-efi/ or write: Paul Nowak <p-nowak at eelink.umich.edu> Tom Cloud <cloud at peaches.ph.utexas.edu>