Injector Sizing: REALLY dumb question

Tom Sharpe twsharpe at mtco.com
Thu Aug 27 04:09:58 GMT 1998


My ProFlow fires before the intake stroke, hoping that the hot intake valve
will vaporize the fuel. Edelbrock calls it "settle time". Above 5500 RPM at
WOT, the injector is open 100% of the time. So much for matching the squirt
with the inhale.  Just more brain food! Tom

goflo at pacbell.net wrote:

> Well, [:) ... 3000 rpm works out to a 40 ms cycle - Lets say 280 deg
> of cam duration, so 40 * 280/720 ~ 15.5 ms.
> Injection duration depends on mass of air ingested during the intake
> event
> and injector size  - Light load, streetable injectors, so maybe 3
> millisecond
> injection event, just to pick a number. My thought would be to time the
> injection event to begin after the intake valve is well off its seat and
> end
> well before closing - Correlate piston velocity per degree of crank
> rotation
> to valve position to see what's going on... Varies according to cam, rod
> length, and stroke. Obviously as rpm increases the time frame shrinks,
> but I
> think this scheme would aid in fighting the soggy bottom common to
> aggressive
> cams. The more turbulence the better, largely a function of port &
> chamber
> shape - The point of the above is to have the injection event when the
> velocity
> into the cylinder is high, and to end it well before the intake valve
> closes so
> that the inevitable reversion does'nt include part of the fuel charge.
>
> Regards, Jack
>
> BTW, I have some programs which crunch engine parameters and produce
> tables
> of the various relationships described above. Not QBASIC, unfortunately,
> but
> not that big a deal to port them if anyone's interested.
>
> Zack wrote:
> >
> >  Granted that when the
> > injector on time gets short, total fuel delivered in the pulse will
> > become more variable as the natural variability of open/close time
> > has more and more effect.
> >         My question is, independent of these considerations, what is the
> > effect of duty cycle?  If during light cruising, the injector is only
> > delivering fuel during, let's say, 20% of the intake valve's opening
> > time, you have this packet of incredibly rich A/F mixture rushing
> > into the cylinder followed by a big gulp of air that has basically no
> > fuel in it at all.  Is mixing inside the cylinder turbulent enough to
> > ensure an even distribution by the time of ignition or is the charge
> > still stratified?
> >
> > Z
> >
> > > The root of the thing is that
> > > minimum injector-on time for most injectors is somewhere between .001
> > > and .002 second - Less gives erratic fuel delivery.






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