? on Mr Hall Effect
BUTLER, Tom
TEBUTLER at mccain.ca
Tue Nov 10 17:57:26 GMT 1998
What I recall of Hall Effect devices:
A bipolar transister
Gate can be turned on by the presence of a magnetic field.
The hardwired gate connection can be biased to alter the magnetic "turn-on"
threshold.
Similar to a photo-transistor in operating theory.
Regards,
Tom Butler
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> From: Kevin Vannorsdel [SMTP:kv at us.ibm.com]
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> I have no knowledge of this particular sensor but correct me if I am
> wrong....
> The Hall Effect (proper) is not a transient thing right? My recollection
> is
> that the Hall Effect occurs in the presence of a magnetic material... not
> only
> in the "passing" of it.
>
> Time to dig out my Physics 203 book!
>
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> owner-diy_efi at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu on 11/10/98 08:35:25 AM
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> I think the teeth improve the magnetic coupling between the powered
> coil and the signal coil. I would almost guess that the powered coil
> was powered by something other than a DC signal. Basically the power
> coil to the signal coil is a transformer and putting the metal near it
> changes how the transformer acts and that is what is detected.
>
> I do not think a DVM would be able to detect the signal good enough.
> There would be only one change when you moved it in closer, and that
> would pass by the DVM way too fast to catch.
>
> All of those devices work on transients that are probably too fast to
> catch with a DVM. If you have it, you may try feeding it into a sound
> card and see what the wave really looks like. Also if you where
> spinning the disk past the sensor you would be able to detect the
> level out the output signal (average level) changing, but would owuld
> not be able to detect any of the waveforms themselves. You might in
> the case be able to put the DVM on HZ (if yours had this) and count
> the number of teeth.
>
> Roger
>
> On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Bruce Plecan wrote:
>
> > In the past, I done some trouble shooting with Hall Effect Devises.
> > Now, for the first time I hooked a meter to one with it sitting on the
> > table. The one I'm starring at is a Toyota, it has a red lead, a white
> > lead, and a sheilded cable with ground.
> > So being the Cone Shaped Hat Wearer that I am, I did the following.
> Using
> > a 9v battery, I grounded it to the shell of the sensor
> > applied + to the read lead, grounded the meter (DVM on V),
> > hooked the meter's lead to the white wire, and then tested it.
> > The test being held a gm crank disc near the tip of the toyota
> > sensor. The meter just flickers as I expose it to the metal?.
> > I thought it would open and close as the metal came close to it?,
> > yes/no?..
> > In various gm training references they show a pattern like
> >
> > ___ ___ ___ ___
> > ___I I___I I___I I___I I
> >
> > Can someone splain this to me, or refer me to an online source for
> > accurate info?.
> > Thanks
> > Bruce
> >
> >
>
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