Saturn EFI
mrvette
mrvette at bellsouth.net
Thu Oct 15 16:35:47 GMT 1998
Oh I don't take offense, Just that I'm goal oriented, and have no interest in
programming as anything other than a tool, So while you others are trying to
figger it out, I'm on the water/road etc...having fun....:-))) GENE
goflo at pacbell.net wrote:
>
> Reminds me of this mexican outfit used to be across the street - Three
> stalls, both ends guys wailing away with grinders, sanders, paint guns -
> Middle stall guy assembling an engine on a stand...
>
> No offense, I hope, Gene - I'm sure every word is gospel - Hope you
> see the story's kinda funny juxtaposed with all these guys trying to
> dope out how this stuff works.
>
> Regards, Jack
>
> mrvette wrote:
> >
> > Well for instance, on an old boat I had once, some years ago, it had a volvo
> > 2100 engine with a no-choke carb. on it, it was a total bitch to get started
> > and stay running, well no lie,
> >
> > so I got a B230f volvo FI manifold/rail/t-body from a junkyard...fit perfectly
> > on the boat,
> > Went to another junkyard and got a GM computer from a 2300 Pontiac '89 grand am,
> > or some such....similar sized engines....and wired it up with GM sending units,
> > batch fired the injectors like GM (experimented with the configuration here, and
> > found it made absolutely NO differance as which two were wired in a batch, boat
> > ran same either which a way)
> > since I had a water cooled exhaust manifold I could not do an O2 sensor, so I
> > just forgot about it, only code set was no o2 sensor, so I forgot about
> > it.....
> > performance increase was astounding.....really,...I went up 3 prop sizes, nearly
> > doubled lo end torque, it seemed, and could run all day on 1/2 tank of gas, as
> > opposed to the previous full tank of usage.....
> >
> > I can't remember the specific numbers now, as I sold the boat some years ago,
> > withthe injection on it....
> >
> > I would use the 1227730 computer, as it does NOT require a MAF sensor...use the
> > tables and MAP, certainly a much simpler wiring setup, with an increase in
> > reliability....MAF tends to foul up, relays burn up, and it's expensive, and
> > hard to plumb....
> >
> > unless you want to waste time with doing your own chip, don't get me wrong
> > here, but I don't have the time to sit down and figger out all that arcane
> > programming crap, allthough it's interesting, I would just buy an aftermarket
> > chip...200 bucks and it's done.....GENE
> >
> > Jemison Richard wrote:
> > >
> > > Gene,
> > >
> > > Another quick question. If I understand you correctly, I should be able to
> > > use any GM ECU to control my efi? If so, I'd want to go with one that was
> > > very common (and therefore known to most on this list!). Which ECU would
> > > you recommend under these circumstances?
> > >
> > > Rick J
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mrvette [SMTP:mrvette at bellsouth.net]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 10:39 AM
> > > > To: diy_efi at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu
> > > > Subject: Re: Saturn EFI
> > > >
> > > > I personally never had any trouble on several direct port injection
> > > > probjects,
> > > > by using an appropriately sized GM computer to run a similar sized engine
> > > > with
> > > > the prom already in it....a 1200 engine is a 1200 engine...IF you go
> > > > closedloop
> > > > the tables will calibrate themselves...
> > > > the mechanicals don t matter that much, it's the injector type and size
> > > > that
> > > > matters more....most interchange without much problems...GENE
> > > >
> > > > Jemison Richard wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm wanting to adapt fuel injection to an inline 4 cylinder 4 stroke
> > > > 1200cc
> > > > > motorcycle. I have been looking seriously at a Saturn EFI as the
> > > > Manifold /
> > > > > plenum / throttle body would physically fit the engine and the available
> > > > > space quite nicely.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have several questions however, and have asked one person from the
> > > > list
> > > > > individually about this and he had some excellent feedback. One
> > > > question he
> > > > > had however was whether Saturn did their own thing with respect to the
> > > > ECU
> > > > > or if they might have adapted an existing ECU to the project. Does
> > > > anyone
> > > > > know an easy way for a novice to figure this out!? Also, I'm interested
> > > > in
> > > > > opinions from the list as to the suitability of this unit compared to
> > > > others
> > > > > (my only experience with fuel njection has been the Saturns I own so I'm
> > > > > really starting at square one). Low cost is always a big factor for me.
> > > > I
> > > > > also have 4 motorcycles. So, once I get this working, I could see at
> > > > least
> > > > > one other motorcycle becoming an EFI recipient!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick J
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________
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> >
> > --
> >
> > ____________
> > Fun under the sun in //~~~~~~~~~~~~\\
> > Jacksonville, Fl. :-))) //______________\\
> > /~~~---~ | | ~---~~~\
> > /| /______\____/______\ |\
> > (( | / | | \ | ))
> > Mako 'Vettes | \============================/ |
> > Shift better with |\ \\[ ] |mrvette| [ ]// /|
> > Automatics | \/+========================+\/ |
> > |~==============================~|
> > |_____| |_____|
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
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____________
Fun under the sun in //~~~~~~~~~~~~\\
Jacksonville, Fl. :-))) //______________\\
/~~~---~ | | ~---~~~\
/| /______\____/______\ |\
(( | / | | \ | ))
Mako 'Vettes | \============================/ |
Shift better with |\ \\[ ] |mrvette| [ ]// /|
Automatics | \/+========================+\/ |
|~==============================~|
|_____| |_____|
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