Cubic Dollars

JJG seachallenger at usa.net
Wed Jan 27 20:36:39 GMT 1999


Robert, I agree with you.
Greg, Ray,  Me too.  I would like the same documentation.
Regards,
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond C Drouillard <cosmic.ray at juno.com>
To: diy_efi at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu <diy_efi at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: Cubic Dollars


>Greg,
>
>That is very interesting.  Where can I get documentation on that fact?  I
>am always interested in what the constitution REALLY says, rather than
>some of the more <ahem> interesting interpretations that I have seen.
>
>The next time I am called to jury duty, I would like to have in my hands
>documentation that I have the right to judge the law as well as the
>defendant.  That would keep me from being forced to convict someone of a
>crime that shouldn't exist.
>
>Of course, the real effect of such paperwork would probablly be to get me
>excused from the jury.  I would need to find a way to keep that from
>happening.
>
>Ray Drouillard
>
>
>
>On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:39:39 -0700 bearbvd at sni.net (Greg Hermann) writes:
>>>Scully agrees with that one Mulder.
>>
>>Yep--and remember that John Adams (yes, that one) argued that the Bill 
>>of
>>Rights was unnecessary cuz "NO JURY WOULD EVER CONVICT ANYBODY UNDER 
>>AN
>>UNREASONABLE, UNJUST LAW, ANYWAY!"  Jury nullification was an accepted 
>>part
>>of English (and thus American, unless you are from Louisiana) law from 
>>when
>>the Magna Carta was signed until the Rockefellers, Carnegies, Mellons,
>>Morgans, Harrimans, etc. told the gummint that it should henceforth be
>>called "JURY LAWLESSNESS!!" The framers considered the jury of peers 
>>to be
>>the ultimate check and balance in their newly designed system of
>>government. Really, the law on this subject has NOT changed, they just 
>>try
>>to tell us that it has!!! Jurors have the right to judge the law as 
>>well as
>>the facts in any case before them! Think about it!!
>>
>>Regards, Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>---Robert Harris <bob at bobthecomputerguy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The question of your rights to hack GM or other ECU's vs the
>>>Manufacturers
>>>> boil down to two words -  Cubic Dollars.   If or when it is
>>>perceived by GM et
>>>> al to be in GM's interest to end the practice, it will end.   GM 
>>has
>>>> historically crushed competition without regard to anything other
>>>than it was
>>>> good for GM.  Count on it.
>>>>
>>>> Start with sheer absolute weight of lawyers - how many thousand can
>>>you afford
>>>> to defend with?   Then if you do start to get an edge - how many 
>>cubic
>>>> lobbyist can you afford?  GM can and has had the law routinely
>>>changed to suit
>>>> GM.
>>>>
>>>> When it was in Bill Gates interest to crush OS-2, cheap counterfeit
>>>windows
>>>> flooded the market.  Now that it is not - the software police are
>>>out in force
>>>> and MS openly states that it intends to have the 100,000 $
>>>prescribed by law
>>>> fines levied on individuals to end the practice.  Bill Gates can 
>>and
>>>is taking
>>>> everything including the house of anyone they catch.
>>>>
>>>> Before you start to whine and snivel about rights - think campaign
>>>> contributions.  How many bucks to how many Klintonian officials
>>>campaigns can
>>>> you fatten vs GM.   Not fair?  - who said GM or life or God was 
>>fair?
>>>>
>>>> And do not forget that the tax paid gnomes and drones of the evil
>>>empire
>>>> AmeriKa will gladly crush you with the full weight and force of law
>>>if it
>>>> pleases their masters.   Think not - remember Janet Reno's barbecue
>>>where 84
>>>> people found out what happens when thief religion was not BATF
>>>approved.
>>>>
>>>> Am I cynical - absolutely.  Do I disapprove - absolutely NOT.   Do
>>>it, enjoy
>>>> the holiday - but don't be surprised when Cubic Dollars descend to
>>>end the
>>>> practice.
>>>>
>>>> 1963 Ford C-600 Prison Bus Conversion "Home"
>>>> 1971 Lincoln Continental 460 "Christine"
>>>> 1972 "Whale" Mustang awaiting transplant
>>>> 1978 Dodge Long Bed Peeek Up "Bundymobile"
>>>>
>>>> Habaneros - not just for breakfast anymore
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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