02 Sensors

[Sandy Ganz]

Gar good to see that you back by the way! Now if we could get people to
stop BS'ing about traction devices and other non related topics this list
might become useful again... this was the DIYEFI list or something.

Sandy

At 07:47 PM 6/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:34:44 -0600, bearbvd at sni.net (Greg Hermann) wrote:
>
>>I too have heard this urban legend--but would almost lay odds that it was
>>started by a Horiba lawyer just as likely as whichever meter mfgr Gar is
>>talking about!
>
>Hahahaha, yeah, now THAT would be a good one! Taking "turnabout is fair
>play" to a bizarre extreme. Hee. Just spose Horiba first issued this
>nonsense to diss the competition, thinking that with their exclusive
>agreement with NTK, nobody could fight this bullshit, NOR prove it
>false;... but INSTEAD of this one competitor trying to fight the
>propaganda, they EMBRACE it instead !!, claim their sensors ALSO come
>directly from NTK, and therefore don't suffer from this dread "richness"
>disease EITHER, whilst all the while buying them from their local Honda
>dealer. Bwahahahaha. Yeah, now THAT's the usual automotive
>snakeoil/diss'ing I've become all too used to, only on steroids this
>time!
>
>Whada world, eh? The same guy that owns this well-known company was the
>one that told me personally on the phone when I first started getting
>interested in this whole topic (I mentioned this some time back on DIY),
>that it would take someone 5yrs of engineering development to build
>their own AFR meter, it was so 'difficult'. He apparently propagates all
>these cute little myths to even his distributors, so he's formed a cadre
>of unsuspecting dupes, all working to discourage others from hobby
>investigation or entering the market, while he sucks contentedly on the
>teets of his lil cash cow. Sheesh, whada shyster.
>
>Honest technical prowess I can respect, but a major case of muddying the
>waters to make them look deep, merits the "used-car salesman" warning
>label, IMO.
>
>Gar