Ignition

[James Ballenger]

	Looks like you found the right pins for me.  Now I just have to
measure everything and double check it.  I'm not sure the leafs really make
a difference because I saw some of both kinds with 2 and 4 leafs and I was
able to install some 2 leaf pins in a previously 4 leaf terminal.

	Thanks Rich, yours was the answer I was looking for with regard to
the pins.  

James Ballenger


>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On
>Behalf Of Rich M
>Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:14 AM
>To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
>Subject: RE: Ignition 
>
>
>I'd guess that these are the AMP 'Junior Timer' or 'Junior Power Timer'
>range - either 5-way or 7-way connector, pins in the module are 2.8mm x
>0.8mm, pitch approx. 5mm??
>If this is so, the female terminals in the vehicle harness 
>connector will
>have one of two styles: if the terminal is split to give it 
>effectively 4
>leafs, it is a 'Junior Timer', if the terminal has just 2 leafs, it is
>'Junior Power Timer'.
>The AMP site is a bit of a fight (now under the Tyco banner), 
>but here are a
>couple of links that might be worth a look to see if it sheds 
>any light:
>
>
>http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN
>&LG=1&I=13&PN
>=927771-3&button.x=47&button.y=17
>
>http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/AMP/docs/pdf/5/83/189385.pdf
>
>http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/AMP/docs/pdf/8/88/194888.pdf
>
>Although the JT and JPT range will both mate with the modules, 
>the terminals
>are not interchangeable between the two housings of the 
>different types.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Rich
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On
>> Behalf Of James Ballenger
>> Sent: 09 December 2000 01:55
>> To: 'diy_efi at diy-efi.org'
>> Subject: Ignition
>>
>>
>> 	Hey you'all.  I am a bit of a Lurker here and have a 
>few questions
>> about ignition systems for some European cars.  I am using a
>> Haltech ECU and
>> need to drive my ignition system via an outside ignitor.  I would
>> like this
>> ignitor to be a smart module (calculates dwell) rather than a
>> dumb one (does
>> not find dwell).
>>
>> 	Thus far I have been using and searching for a Bosch 
>module # 0 227
>> 100 139, which is a smart module.  They are $130 in the 
>store, but I also
>> found one in a Saab 900 at the junkyard.  Does anyone know 
>the years and
>> makes of cars that these Bosch modules were installed on so that
>> I can find
>> more of them or find a cheap source for them?
>>
>> 	I have also run across a Siemens 191 905 351 B and a 
>Telefunken 191
>> 905 351 B module, I think they are both dumb... anyone else 
>know?  I have
>> also seen a Bosch 0 227 100 124 module, does anyone know if 
>this one is
>> smart of dumb?
>>
>> 	I have also taken some of the connectors that go to the 
>back of all
>> these modules (they are the same) and I need replacement 
>pins for them.
>> Does anyone know a good source for the square pins or what they
>> are called?
>> These should be the same for most ignition modules on
>> Porsche/Audi/VW/Volvo/Saab through the mid 80's to early 90's.
>> They are amp
>> connectors so I called amp and they just told me the part #"s are
>> no longer
>> valid.  I have also seen similar connectors in Newark 
>Electronics, Allied
>> Electronics and Digi-Key but can't definately identify the pins.
>>
>> 	Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> James Ballenger
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