Ease data logger [was Re: Best Commercial Wide-Band Exhaust Gas Analyzer...???]

[Jason R. Haines]

Yes, we have the OBD II Data Logger. It is nice because we can send it to a
customer, let them drive around with it installed (ours is set up to record
up to 11 hours) and the don't have to do anything (we set it up to start
recording on key on). It is also interesting to record track events and
other high speed events ( we have recorded track events, Silver State runs,
ASA cars etc.). The update rate is slow (seems slower than the Tech 2) and
you can't get all the data parameters that the Tech 2 has. Ease is usually a
year or two behind on the vehicle software (and we are normally working on
brand new vehicles) but for most shops this shouldn't be a real issue. The
Ease software is also a little slow and bulky on your PC. Despite this, the
data logger is a very helpful tool. I have meant to check out the Kent
Moore/OTC logger but haven't had a chance. I assume it is more like the Tech
2 but I know it won't log nearly as much data.


Jason



> You're right Jason,
> I don't think I'd want to trust a $20K engine to a $200 AFR meter.
> On a side note--Have you looked at EASE's data logger ?
>
> Lyndon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jason R. Haines <jhaines at lingenfelter.com>
> To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Best Commercial Wide-Band Exhaust Gas Analyzer...???
>
>
> >
> > When you say wide band exhaust gas analyzer I am assuming you are
talking
> > about air fuel ratio analysis and not multi-gas analysis. I am also
> assuming
> > you don't want laboratory grade equipment that is very expensive and
often
> > can't be mounted in a car. Based on this, from the ones we have tested
and
> > used, I like the air fuel ratio analyzers from ECM (Engine Control and
> > Monitoring). We have several Horiba meters and they work great but I am
> > biased against Horiba right now (for product support reasons) and you
get
> > more meter for the same price from ECM (the sensors are cheaper too).
For
> > most applications, the ECM AFRecorder Model 1200 is probably the best.
It
> is
> > small, has a display, linearized programmable voltage output, an RS232
> > output and data logging. It can even simulate a switch type O2 sensor so
> > that you can plug the wide band sensor into the existing O2 sensor bung.
I
> > think the Model 1200 sells for around $4,500. For a lot less you can get
> the
> > AFM1000 that looks like the NGK blue boxes but has a linearized voltage
> > output. The AFM1000 doesn't have a display or offer data logging. I
think
> > the AFM1000 costs around $1700. The one we tested that we really liked
was
> > the AFRecorder Model 2400 that has all the features of the Model 1200
plus
> > is records RPM, manifold pressure and spark timing. It is a lot larger
> than
> > the other two models so it isn't as easy to mount in the car. The model
> 2400
> > costs $8000. All three models offer "free air" calibration of the
sensors.
> I
> > think they charge around $400 for the sensors. The ECM web site is
> > http://www.ecmco.com . Other companies to look at include ETAS (Bosch
> > emissions/calibration equipment) and Horiba.
> >
> > Several cheaper models exist from other companies that use the Bosch 4
> wire
> > wide band sensors (I think it is Bosch part number 0 258 104 002). They
> are
> > usually in the $800 to $1300 range. I think ETAS,  Motec, CDS
(Competition
> > Data Systems), Autronic (sp?) and many others offer these systems.
> >
> > And obviously don't waste your money on any of the products that call
> > themselves air fuel ratio meters that use the 1 to 3 wire heated switch
> type
> > O2 sensors - they should be called rich/lean indicators and nothing
else.
> > 8-)
> >
> > Hope the helps,
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> > >
> > > A friend is building a vintage racer (SB Chevy) and is interested in
the
> > best
> > > commercial Wide Band Exhaust Gas Analyzer.
> > >
> > > He hasn't the time to build and debug/calibrate the DIY_EFI version at
> > this
> > > time so hence this request for recommendations.
> > >
> > > Of note, he'll likely be running leaded race gas so if possible an
> > analyzer
> > > that he could calibrate and replace the wide band lambda sensor
> (hopefully
> > > without sending it back to the manufacturer etc) would be best.
> > >
> > > TIA for all your help!
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> >
>
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