Water Injection

[Bob Wooten]

I don't know the numbers.  I forwarded the address to work (T1 line @ work
dialup @ home) & surfed for about an hour.  I found 2 on ION, one on O2
sensors, & a number on piston combustion engines.  they all were very
interesting & informative.

BW

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On
Behalf Of 944Technologist
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:42 PM
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Subject: Re: Water Injection


Which report numbers did you find useful? There are so many turbine engine
reports.

FR Wilk


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Wooten" <r71chevy at earthlink.net>
To: <diy_efi at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: Water Injection


> Bob,
>
> Right on, I found a bunch of stuff @ that site that is VERY informative.
I
> would love to spend someone else's money blowing stuff up & learning about
> how things work & how they don't, this would definately be the ultimate
job,
> now if only I can get that job & have them not pay me minimum wage.
>
> interesting commentary on HRM & such, the more I learn, the less in enjoy
my
> monthly subscriptions, lots of great commercials going on there.
>
> Tanx for the info.
> BW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org]On
> Behalf Of Robert Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:23 AM
> To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> Subject: Water Injection
>
>
> When you grow up enough to get tired of the HRM and other myths,
> misinformation, conjecture, hype, anti-hype and general bullshit you might
> just want to read up on what your tax payer dollars paid for on the
subject
> when lives were dependent upon the advantages it provides.
>
> Check out the NACA report server - there are literally dozens of reports
> here
> that were created using test engines, dynos etc specifically testing to
> destruction various facets of engine design including water injection.
>
> http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/
>
> Some generals from the testing.   Water injection works as an internal
> coolant
> - absorbing energy from both the charge and the cylinder.  Works well
enough
> that at high levels greatly reduces the heat lost to the jacket.  Fact -
> read
> the reports.
>
> Water injection replaces excess fuel used for coolant with little power
> change
> ( favoring water injection ) right down to about stoic.  Fact - read the
> reports again.
>
> Excess fuel ( Rich mixture ) is used primarily for charge/internal
coolant.
> Power output water vs rich about the same up to the detontation limit for
> fuel.   Water however, can be used to much higher limits and allows major
> increases in power over fuel because far more charge at much higher
> pressures
> can be consumed in a cylinder.
>
> Upper limit for water injection testing was limited not by combustion, but
> by
> severe water contamination of the lubricating oil.
>
> The NACA stuff is kind of hard to accept.  Silly arsed bastards didn't use
> computers or math models - they actually built engines, tested them to
> destruction and recorded their results.  Oh - silly me - that's primary
> research.
>
> If you worship the Taylors, did you know they did the research for most of
> their books at NACA and you can get copies of the original research?  Same
> for
> most of the other prominent writers.  You can read the sound bites in
> Heywood
> or read the research at NACA.
>
> Pleasant reading for the few - the rest - enjoy the myths.
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