Waste Spark Coils
Bob Wooten
r71chevy at earthlink.net
Thu Feb 22 08:00:20 GMT 2001
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James thanks for the information. I think that i am going to have to
take a run to the auto parts store tomorrow during lunch. I would love to
do CNP, but the $$$. they would have to make the car fly, sing, dance
pick up a few tenths for that cost to benefit ratio to even come close to
paying off. bet i would have the only 71 Camaro w/a super ram with one
coil per plug in the parking lot though. still hard to justify. now
if only i could manage to write it off on my taxes. hmmmmmmmmmm, is this
entertainment, travel expense or mental therapy?
thanks again
BW
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From: James
Ballenger
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Sent: 2/21/01 10:15:39 PM
Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils
The coils are GM #
1103608;1103646;1103745;10468391;10472401;10477602;10495121;1049771
App - Buick 97-86; Caddy 98-93, 88-87; Chevy 98-87 (These were all I
wrote
down even though other
GM brands were represented, also the book I had did not list specific
models, I suspect because these were carried on too many models to
mention
There are multiple styles of the GM two post coils and these numbers
only
represent one style. Though can look up the #'s for the other
two styles if
some people want me to.
Mitsubishi (turbo Galant eclipse), Porsche, and Rx-7 coils are all
very
good, but they are MUCH more expensive and not any better than the GM
versions IMO.
GM now has a new setup they will probably be running on most cars to
replace
the old two post coils. They are the coil per plug with the
ignitor built
into them, but they are $40 or so each and not any more powerful than
the
waste spark coils and they require a sequential ecu setup.
James Ballenger
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org ]On
Behalf
Of Bob Wooten
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils
James,
I am interested in the part numbers applications. if you
guys know the
applications i would be most appreciative. my parts guy is good
about
looking up
stuff via application but his cross reverence leaves much to be
desired.
On a similar subject, Jurgen said 2nd gen RX7 but I am not Mazda literate
so
i don't know my first Gen from my fourth gen. on the subject of
the RX7
coils, saying that they have that they have the ignitor in them, does
that
mean that they are fired with a TTL level input? if so that
would kill two
birds with one stone for me.
thanks gents.
Bob Wooten
----- Original Message -----
From: James Ballenger
To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
Sent: 2/21/01 2:36:21 PM
Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils
I used to use stock honda coils for the 600cc F4/F3 setup being run
here
and they were pretty weak... you could barely even see or hear the
spark. I
recently just went with some GM $20 coils and good lord! You
could tig weld
with these things if you threw some argon in. We rev up to
~13000 so they
should work fine for your app, be extremely cheap and just about the
cheapest ones you can get on the market AFAIK.
If anyone is interested in the specific ones I am using, I am some GM
part
#'s what GM cars they correspond to and advance auto part #'s.
Have fun,
James Ballenger
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--- r71chevy at earthlink.net
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<DIV>James thanks for the information. I think that i am going to have to take a run to the auto parts store tomorrow during lunch. I would love to do CNP, but the $$$. they would have to make the car fly, sing, dance & pick up a few tenths for that cost to benefit ratio to even come close to paying off. bet i would have the only 71 Camaro w/a super ram with one coil per plug in the parking lot though. still hard to justify. now if only i could manage to write it off on my taxes. hmmmmmmmmmm, is this entertainment, travel expense or mental therapy?</DIV>
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<DIV>thanks again</DIV>
<DIV>BW</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 2/21/01 10:15:39 PM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Waste Spark Coils</DIV>
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<DIV>The coils are GM #</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1103608;1103646;1103745;10468391;10472401;10477602;10495121;1049771</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>App -> Buick 97-86; Caddy 98-93, 88-87; Chevy 98-87 (These were all I wrote</DIV>
<DIV>down even though other</DIV>
<DIV>GM brands were represented, also the book I had did not list specific</DIV>
<DIV>models, I suspect because these were carried on too many models to mention</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are multiple styles of the GM two post coils and these numbers only</DIV>
<DIV>represent one style. Though can look up the #'s for the other two styles if</DIV>
<DIV>some people want me to.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mitsubishi (turbo Galant & eclipse), Porsche, and Rx-7 coils are all very</DIV>
<DIV>good, but they are MUCH more expensive and not any better than the GM</DIV>
<DIV>versions IMO.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>GM now has a new setup they will probably be running on most cars to replace</DIV>
<DIV>the old two post coils. They are the coil per plug with the ignitor built</DIV>
<DIV>into them, but they are $40 or so each and not any more powerful than the</DIV>
<DIV>waste spark coils and they require a sequential ecu setup.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>James Ballenger</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV>From: <A href="mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org">owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A> [<A href="mailto:mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org">mailto:owner-diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A>]On Behalf</DIV>
<DIV>Of Bob Wooten</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM</DIV>
<DIV>To: <A href="mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org">diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>James,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am interested in the part numbers & applications. if you guys know the</DIV>
<DIV>applications i would be most appreciative. my parts guy is good about</DIV>
<DIV>looking up</DIV>
<DIV>stuff via application but his cross reverence leaves much to be desired.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On a similar subject, Jurgen said 2nd gen RX7 but I am not Mazda literate so</DIV>
<DIV>i don't know my first Gen from my fourth gen. on the subject of the RX7</DIV>
<DIV>coils, saying that they have that they have the ignitor in them, does that</DIV>
<DIV>mean that they are fired with a TTL level input? if so that would kill two</DIV>
<DIV>birds with one stone for me.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>thanks gents.</DIV>
<DIV>Bob Wooten</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV>From: James Ballenger</DIV>
<DIV>To: <A href="mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org">diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: 2/21/01 2:36:21 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: RE: Waste Spark Coils</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I used to use stock honda coils for the 600cc F4/F3 setup being run here</DIV>
<DIV>and they were pretty weak... you could barely even see or hear the spark. I</DIV>
<DIV>recently just went with some GM $20 coils and good lord! You could tig weld</DIV>
<DIV>with these things if you threw some argon in. We rev up to ~13000 so they</DIV>
<DIV>should work fine for your app, be extremely cheap and just about the</DIV>
<DIV>cheapest ones you can get on the market AFAIK.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If anyone is interested in the specific ones I am using, I am some GM part</DIV>
<DIV>#'s what GM cars they correspond to and advance auto part #'s.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Have fun,</DIV>
<DIV>James Ballenger</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--- Bob Wooten</DIV>
<DIV>--- <A href="mailto:r71chevy at earthlink.net">r71chevy at earthlink.net</A></DIV>
<DIV>--- <A href="http://www.r71camaro.homestead.com">www.r71camaro.homestead.com</A></DIV>
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